BYE FC Exclusivity for this round. New housing Indo.

[LaylaTsarra]

This should stop the FC abuse or at the least put them on the same footing as private home owners. It's about time.

Skybuilder Ranking Titles/Achievements and Additional Housing

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...8d38461c5ae127

[TwistedTea]

This should stop the FC abuse or at the least put them on the same footing as private home owners. It's about time.

Skybuilder Ranking Titles/Achievements and Additional Housing

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...8d38461c5ae127

Lol, when Lodestone data indicates FCs only own ~30% of the housing on NA servers- sure FCs are the issue.

Waiting for the salt from 2 groups of people:
1. "OMG, Yoshi P, why only 3 wards?!"
2. "OMG Yoshi P, why did you make it free for all, my FC couldn't get a medium/large?!"

[Penthea]

Lol, when Lodestone data indicates FCs only own ~30% of the housing on NA servers- sure FCs are the issue.

I'm not sure what you're trying to achieve here. I think everyone expects for there to be far less fc houses than private houses for the simple fact that there are significantly more individual players than fcs.

Also something doesn't need to entirely dominate a situation to be an issue. If one person in a group of ten is a bully...that doesn't make the bully's actions not be an issue just because they're in a minority.

And well I'm not saying fcs themselves are an issue, assuming they are legitimate fcs. However shell fcs are an issue.

[TwistedTea]

I'm not sure what you're trying to achieve here. I think everyone expects for there to be far less fc houses than private houses for the simple fact that there are significantly more individual players than fcs.
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Because people keep framing this as shell FCs taking up wards of housing depriving individual players of housing, when that ~30% number includes both legit FCs and shell FCs.

The persistent ward housing system is bad with coping with increasing player populations as this freeze demonstrates.

Even in a free for all situation like this, not every individual player who wants a house, is gonna get a house. Especially not on a high pop server.

Adding new wards is kicking the can down the road.

A more feasible solution would be to ask SE to improve upon apartments. Let us upgrade them for gil to penthouses/condos with balconies for gardening/workshop access.

[Penthea]

Because people keep framing this as shell FCs taking up wards of housing depriving individual players of housing

Well...they are...this isn't a theory. This is something that actually happens. There are many reasons why players don't have access to houses and one of those is because of some players/fcs creating shell fcs. But of course the core issue is SE themselves and the awful system they gave us. It just so happens some people are making a bad situation worse.

The persistent ward housing system is bad with coping with increasing player populations as this freeze demonstrates.

Even in a free for all situation like this, not every individual player who wants a house, is gonna get a house. Especially not on a high pop server.

Completely agree.

A more feasible solution would be to ask SE to improve upon apartments. Let us upgrade them for gil to penthouses/condos with balconies for gardening/workshop access.

Again I completely agree. Doing this could dramatically improve the housing situation and without even needing to add new wards.

[Luna-M]

Well...they are...this isn't a theory. This is something that actually happens.

Not everywhere though. Should not say it's a thing when it generally happens on more populated servers. Here on Zodiark we had 10-20 plots available for months before Covid happened but we still see a few plots open up on a weekly basis.

[LaylaTsarra]

30 percent is a huge number for FC's. Seems to me that number should be no more than 20 percent. Glad SE has seen the abuse and the unfairness for private owner purchases and is at least for this go around trying to offer private owners some relief. i have a good number of friends who are happy as can be with the news

[Kenky]

30 percent is a huge number for FC's. Seems to me that number should be no more than 20 percent. Glad SE has seen the abuse and the unfairness for private owner purchases and is at least for this go around trying to offer private owners some relief. i have a good number of friends who are happy as can be with the news

Yes, punish FC owners and FCs in general for wanting a house (that actively gives them exclusive systems, a la Workshop / Airship stuff) when some private owner could want it to just collect dust.

Boy, what a good thing to do! It's so unfair for FCs to be given priority in new housing (because it affects more than one person usually) when Mr (or Mrs) Insignificant wants their own house to neglect!

[PewPewPewPewPew]

30 percent is a huge number for FC's. Seems to me that number should be no more than 20 percent. Glad SE has seen the abuse and the unfairness for private owner purchases and is at least for this go around trying to offer private owners some relief. i have a good number of friends who are happy as can be with the news

30% is not huge.

30% is also not huge when you realize that FC homes are meant to service more than one person. If you believe all 30% of those houses to be single owners, then that's hugely unreasonable.

[Jojoya]

30% is not huge.

30% is also not huge when you realize that FC homes are meant to service more than one person. If you believe all 30% of those houses to be single owners, then that's hugely unreasonable.

The question is how many FC houses are servicing only one person (even if that person has multiple characters in the FC).

And I doubt anyone thinks that every FC house is for a single person. But certainly there are a large number of FC houses that are that way. I saw several last fall when I was doing a world wide census. It would be interesting to see how many of them remain that way. If players had some concrete data about membership of FCs with houses, it could silence most of the concerns - or increase them.