Guide to fixing PLD

[Rexus]

I'd honestly like to know how the PLD's here gearing up for DEX/VIT/MND/Block/Etc are keeping hate against Melee/BLM's that get 100+ DPS on boss fights.

PLD can tank everything in the game, this is a given. However, they are pretty much useless when your party has HIGHLY capabable Melee/BLM DPS. Before you even say it, don't give me the "Well hold back dumb melees" argument, that is just a horrible concept that was only used in FFXI.

To "fix" PLD they need to do 3 things IMO:

1) Increase amount of enmity gained from actions, maybe give them some trait that will let them receive more enmity from Voke/Flash/Etc over a WAR.

2) Change the way their cures work, too many times you are either Sileneced/Paralyzed/Stunned/Knockbacked/Made to run or move, making it harder for PLDs to effectively use their healing skills. Like it has been suggested, instant cast Holy Succor would be pretty nice.

3) Increase their DPS capability. Yoshi-P already stated there will be modifications to PLD DPS which is nice, I doubt it'll be enough though. Having higher DPS WILL increase your enmity, much more than increasing your damage mitigation will.

The problem I see whenever we have someone try to tank on PLD is that they can't keep hate off our Melee/BLM. It is NEVER a problem keeping hate off of WHMs, which is why I feel gearing for Damage Mitigation is almost pointless. I can only see a "turtle tank" PLD working if they make their Actions/Cures give an exorbitant amount of enmity, while also making Boss mobs have extremely high Def/M.Eva.

To "fix" PLD, they need to focus on enhancing enmity generation, rather than damage mitigation, simply put.

[SwordCoheir]

To "fix" PLD, they need to focus on enhancing enmity generation, rather than damage mitigation, simply put.

Focusing on just one aspect that needs attention won't make PLD any more viable than if they solely focused on damage mitigation, because in the end if PLD can't do both they have no advantages over WAR or can't keep up with hate control and both aspects are still somewhat lacking even though they've improved.

[Rexus]

Focusing on just one aspect that needs attention won't make PLD any more viable than if they solely focused on damage mitigation, because in the end if PLD can't do both they have no advantages over WAR or can't keep up with hate control and both aspects are still somewhat lacking even though they've improved.

Right, but what I was saying is that I don't think PLD has the need for anymore damage mitigation to make them useful. Sure, it would be nice, but it isn't really harder to keep a PLD up over a WAR. If they had better enmity generation, that'd be the advantage you would think about using over a WAR. Use a tank that can produce great enmity and lower DPS, or one that can produce good enmity and good DPS?

hmm, hate control isnt hard. again, realy dont mean to insult anyones inteligence, but If you cant keep hate in a boss fight on PLD Im not sure why... onlything that comes to mind is if the PLD is using simple af gear and everyone else (dd) have invested into their gear... or the PLD just is clueless about how to play the job. Honestly if WAR is the only job you can tank on then stick to it, but to proclaim that PLD cant tank just because YOU personally can not do it is ignorant. Anyways when we get the opertunity to get everyone out there , gona try to take garuda with 6 wars 1pld as main tank and a whm.

Like I said before, I'd like to know what people are doing to keep hate on Miser/Coincounter/Chimera using PLD when their DPS are very well geared and pushing as hard as they can. Yes, PLD can keep hate fine on Ogre, Batraal, Ifrit, and sometimes Moogle. Those cases are different from what I'm asking though, as they all contain transitional phases that lower overall DPS of your Melee/BLMs and let the tank produce more Enmity.

Also, if you haven't already, I'd refrain from using your 6 WAR Garuda strat...