Guide to fixing PLD

[Dzian]

i'll admit i forgot about cover but so far i've not found much use for it. it typically requires someone to stand in harms way to get covered. either i dont notice it or the mp regen doesnt proc when your outside 8 yalms.

but i'd still consider the war in aces challenge thing to have the blinky red box more than the paladin. does cover generate emnity? i cant find anything that says yes.

Again i love the paladin class. but i can still tank more effectively on a war with a lot less effort.
every dd i play with says they can be more offensive with a warrior. no matter who tries to pld tank. basically saying "oh a pld tank i better hold back a little"

and imo thats the reason why nearly everyone i see be it people i know or people i dont use warriors. more effective with less effort

[Evaddaragon]

i'll admit i forgot about cover but so far i've not found much use for it. it typically requires someone to stand in harms way to get covered. either i dont notice it or the mp regen doesnt proc when your outside 8 yalms.

but i'd still consider the war in aces challenge thing to have the blinky red box more than the paladin. does cover generate emnity? i cant find anything that says yes.

Again i love the paladin class. but i can still tank more effectively on a war with a lot less effort.
every dd i play with says they can be more offensive with a warrior. no matter who tries to pld tank. basically saying "oh a pld tank i better hold back a little"

and imo thats the reason why nearly everyone i see be it people i know or people i dont use warriors. more effective with less effort

Well as far as the MP regen effect goes, I don't need to have my target within 8 yalms from me for it to work. I only need to be able to actually activate the ability. It even works if I take damage when I had hate in the first place. Oh well.

Oh yeah, that discussion is about if I'd be in a situation where I'm competing for hate with a WAR on the same target. My points was simply to state that the mere fact the WAR takes hate from me doesn't prevent me from using my full set of abilities.

Also, if I was in said competition with the WAR, let me tell you I'd never, ever let, the WAR collusion me on Spirits Within. It's easy enough to notice the WAR activated the ability and simply use a second Phalanx, thus preventing the WAR from stealing my enmity spike, then use Spirits Within. It's not like 250 TP is hard to come by, especially when you can use outmaneuver and Divine Veil to give yourself a nice TP boost.

Cover doesn't generate enmity, but it forces shift the hate on you for the duration of the effect, which, if I recall, can be up 25%. Since the challenge is "having the blinking red box more often than the other", the WAR starts with a 25% handicap unless the PLD forgets to actually use Cover.

So, as I said, I wouldn't go as far as saying PLD can't be as effective, but I'll admit it's probably easier to spam Steel Cyclone for damage/hate than it is to spam more abilities on PLD. However, Ace's challenge isn't about easy, it's about holding hate.

Still, that challenge has no practical use but to boost said participant's respective egos. I'd rather find ways to have PLD and WAR work together than absolutely trying to have them compete, but that's just me I guess.

[Alerith]

i'll admit i forgot about cover but so far i've not found much use for it. it typically requires someone to stand in harms way to get covered. either i dont notice it or the mp regen doesnt proc when your outside 8 yalms.

The MP regen doesn't require your covered target to be near you, or to even have enmity. The game checks two things: Did the PLD take damage? (from any source) and Is Cover active? If both these are true, then the effect of cover will return MP.

but i'd still consider the war in aces challenge thing to have the blinky red box more than the paladin. does cover generate emnity? i cant find anything that says yes.

It doesn't generate actual enmity. What it does is that as long as your covered target is within the 8 yalm distance, it FORCES a hate shift that has the mob turn on you when it attacks and casts.

[Daniel_Fury]

i'll admit i forgot about cover but so far i've not found much use for it. it typically requires someone to stand in harms way to get covered. either i dont notice it or the mp regen doesnt proc when your outside 8 yalms.

but i'd still consider the war in aces challenge thing to have the blinky red box more than the paladin. does cover generate emnity? i cant find anything that says yes.

Again i love the paladin class. but i can still tank more effectively on a war with a lot less effort.
every dd i play with says they can be more offensive with a warrior. no matter who tries to pld tank. basically saying "oh a pld tank i better hold back a little"

and imo thats the reason why nearly everyone i see be it people i know or people i dont use warriors. more effective with less effort

lol.
Spam holy succor on the war and they lose hate faster than you think