Guide to fixing PLD

[Dzian]

I challange any level minded pair of tanks, 1 war, 1pld, to attempt to steal hate from eachother on a "mini boss" like Deepvoid Slave, Princess, or even coin counter. I think most will be suprised to see the results,.

As much as i love paladin i will take any one up on that challenge on my warrior. if we go with the deepvoid slave as an example. sentinal antagonize flash voke vengance rampart. think in 10 seconds of the fight i'll already have more hate which pretty much locks out your spirits within and wardrum because without hate you wont be blocking and a few seconds later i'll have my skull sunder emnity combo cake with its steel cyclone icing on top. and if by some stroke of luck you do pull it back i can just collusion your spirits within.

I can't see how any paladin could compete with that. but i would genuinely love to be proved wrong as i am a much bigger fan of paladin than warrior. which is why i'm so gutted that it's so broken.

I've been called a legendary paladin and a legendary warrior, i just find being a legendary warrior is 10% of the effort and 50% more effective. even if imo i suck at warrior cos i never use half its abilities but i don't need to....

[Evaddaragon]

As much as i love paladin i will take any one up on that challenge on my warrior. if we go with the deepvoid slave as an example. sentinal antagonize flash voke vengance rampart. think in 10 seconds of the fight i'll already have more hate which pretty much locks out your spirits within and wardrum because without hate you wont be blocking and a few seconds later i'll have my skull sunder emnity combo cake with its steel cyclone icing on top. and if by some stroke of luck you do pull it back i can just collusion your spirits within.

I can't see how any paladin could compete with that. but i would genuinely love to be proved wrong as i am a much bigger fan of paladin than warrior. which is why i'm so gutted that it's so broken.

I've been called a legendary paladin and a legendary warrior, i just find being a legendary warrior is 10% of the effort and 50% more effective. even if imo i suck at warrior cos i never use half its abilities but i don't need to....

If you think the PLD couldn't get his spirits within combo while the WAR has hate, you are sorely mistaken. There is an ability that allows a PLD to do that even without hate. That ability is called Cover.

While it's true that the WAR could Collusion Spirits Within, you can only Collusion one action while Cover will allow you to force shift hate for much longer than that.While you're under that effect, you take hits instead of the WAR (which definitely will in a 8 yalms radius since both are competing for hate on the mob), therefore you'll end up actually tanking at least 25% of the time.

Add in the fact you get a 25% MP return if you wear the AF body, you can spam Holy Succor for hate and Stoneskin for survivability. Since you are GUARANTED to have the mob on you at least 25% of the time, there is no way a WAR tanking against a PLD will prevent the PLD from using any of his abilities. A skilled PLD will also combine Cover with Divine Veil and Outmaneuver to try and generate TP fast enough to also spam the Fast Blade + Flat Blade combo, which, as one might recall, is on a ten second cooldown.

I can't say I'd bother doing that kind of contest on the Ogre, but I have done that against 3 WARs from my LS while we were doing level 50 factions leves for fun. Be it the wolf, drake, or buffalo, they were able to keep the lesser mobs on them, but never were they able to keep the main bosses on them for more than a few seconds. Either they were bad WARs, or I'm a good PLD, I can't say, but I'll say that challenge isn't a easy to decide as some would think.

It's as I said already. PLD can hold hate, in fact, perhaps even better than WAR. But as long as their survivability are about the same, with WAR having a better HP margin for healers and far better DPS, no one will ever pick PLD for a main tank in a group.