Re-enable Housing Demolition!

[Penthea]

I'm happy they are adding wards. And it will help, like you said. But those houses will be bought up entirely within a week. So they should also re-enable housing demolition and never disable it again. TBH, fully instanced housing is what it should have been all along.

Yea and the fact that they're bought up so quickly shows that we need more wards because the amount we have cannot meet the demand of a large population.

You can't very noticeably decrease the demand with demolition because it does not increase the amount of houses in the game. In addition to this most players hold on to their houses for years. Relying on demolition means sitting around camping aetherytes hoping someone left the server, got bored of the game, had unfortunate life circumstances or got banned.

Furthermore this game has gotten more popular with time so it only makes sense to add more wards with time as well.

I am not saying demolition is useless, because it's not. I got my own house because of demolition. But the fact is adding more wards improves availability issues far more than demolition ever could.

And before anyone says to me "but that's the same with grandfathering and you are against it!" I do agree that it is the same for grandfathering. Adding more houses is a far better solution for all than hoping someone will lose their house. Hell, it's why I want instanced housing above all other solutions! Because it would mean houses for everyone, and not only for those lucky enough to snag something before someone or after someone lost their house.

[Holy_Shenanigans]

@Penthea, I also think you are massively underestimating how many houses are freed up in a year thanks to demolitions. I would estimate it to be in the scale of thousands per year per server. Demolitions also become more effective, the more wards they add.

[LaylaTsarra]

More wards appear to be coming along with the arrival of new servers but that will be after 5.35 and most likely 5.4.

[Holy_Shenanigans]

More wards are great (even more frequent housing turn over with demolition), but ultimately useless, without demolition being enabled. And that was the whole reason I made this thread. Please push for housing demolition to be re-enabled. And ask them not to disable it anymore in the future.

[Penthea]

It's almost as if SE meant for it to be this way to prevent the crisis of endless shortages..

So you think swapping a shortage of houses for a shortage of players able to afford a house is a good trade? It's the same thing in the end: players unable to access housing. This won't stop the complaining you're so fond of laughing at. But at least you would still have something to laugh about so it's a win/win situation for you ;D

[PewPewPewPewPew]

So you think swapping a shortage of houses for a shortage of players able to afford a house is a good trade? It's the same thing in the end: players unable to access housing. This won't stop the complaining you're so fond of laughing at. But at least you would still have something to laugh about so it's a win/win situation for you ;D

No more shortages.
No more bloodbath patch days to race to get a house.
No more people hurting themselves for clicking 48 hours.
Large reduction in house hording activities because of price point.
FC's who have a house and are recruiting and advertise a house as a feature will truly be able to advertise it as a strong point.
More reason to have the FC workshop moved to barracks instead of houses.

Sounds to me like it would solve many problems people have in the hundreds of posts they keep opening here.

[PewPewPewPewPew]

Also re-enable what truly matters. Original pricing.




4,153,497,000g instead of 358M to own a division.
8,306,994,000g instead of 716M to own a full ward

It's almost as if SE meant for it to be this way to prevent the crisis of endless shortages..

[Catstab]

The best solution would be to re-enable housing demolition, and never disable it again.?

Never again? Auto-demo halts have been enacted 4 or 5 times, and served the community well every time.

Player retention is very important to ff14. Continued subs mean a continued game. They do this by prioritizing player comfort so you can feel secure on the game. Pausing auto demolition at times when people would disproportionately lose their homes is a compassionate stance that the devs take, which helps players feel secure in the rewards they've earned.

So if you're joking - haha, this is funny. If you're serious, you really need to take a harder look at Yoshi P and the developers outlook on game design, player retention, and ethics in general. "Too bad, so sad, working as intended" is not the way ff14 has made it 7 years of solid growth.

[Holy_Shenanigans]

So if you're joking - haha, this is funny. If you're serious, you really need to take a harder look at Yoshi P and the developers outlook on game design, player retention, and ethics in general. "Too bad, so sad, working as intended" is not the way ff14 has made it 7 years of solid growth.

I'm not joking in the slightest. As I've said before, suspending housing demolition is a nice gesture. But it's something that they should have never done in the first place. If I were a victim of some kind of disaster, I wouldn't be at all concerned about anything virtual. Nor would I mind having to repurchase a home in the game. The only change I would like to see is having demolished home items kept recoverable indefinitely, rather than just a few months. This would be trivial to implement. It would balance it out so that demolition isn't such a terrible thing. And those items are the things that are truly hard to replace. Leaving demolition on at all times makes buying a new home easily possible, with a bit a perseverance.

[Penthea]

I'm not joking in the slightest. As I've said before, suspending housing demolition is a nice gesture. But it's something that they should have never done in the first place. If I were a victim of some kind of disaster, I wouldn't be at all concerned about anything virtual.

Fair enough if you feel this way but not everyone does (I mean just look at the post about allagan melons) and SE recognise this.

Just because life is going through a rough patch doesn't mean you entirely stop caring about in game assets. For some people their in-game assets are part of their daily lives, and when they daydream about having a normal boring life again then being able to log in at their house could very well be part of that daydream.

I know exactly what it's like to not have a house during a demolition pause because I've been there myself. It sucks. But I never ever thought to essentially say "tough poop to those who can't log in, I want my house". I just waited until it came back on. The only thing that made me anxious was not knowing the exact day demolition would be back, but some lovely people in the forums here helped me out with this.

I'm starting to think you're more concerned about demolition than the fact that every server is going to get over 1000 new houses. It's a bit strange. I didn't have the news of extra wards to look forward to at all during the period when I had no house during a demolition pause.