Page 1 of 3 1 2 3 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 27
  1. #1
    Player
    Morningstar1337's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2014
    Location
    Ul'Dah
    Posts
    3,492
    Character
    Aurora Aura
    World
    Exodus
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 80

    Why don't Allience Raids drop rings?

    Okay, rings are wonky, you can equip two of the same yet most are still unique-locked, which means you need slightly better rings to get to that ilevel threshold. Alliance Raids, are usually considered catch up content, but they only drop non-acc gear.

    While I am aware that there are other sources of equivalent rings,and that there are crafted non unique rings that are just as powerful (if not more given the potential made possible by pentamelds), I do believe that having more sources of rings of the same ilevel coudne't hurt

    what do you think?
    (0)
    Last edited by Morningstar1337; 08-27-2020 at 09:40 AM.

  2. #2
    Player
    TheMightyMollusk's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2018
    Posts
    7,369
    Character
    Iyami Galvayra
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 100
    Dun Scaith had a weekly quest added to it to get accessories, but Orbonne didn't follow suit.
    (7)

  3. #3
    Player
    SomeRandomHuman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2014
    Posts
    778
    Character
    Tabi Fox
    World
    Mateus
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 100
    There's a reason they removed belts from 24 man raids. Why would you roll on a piece of gear that gives less stats than any other equipment slot that drops. You have tomestone rings(capped and upgraded uncapped), 8-man raid ring, crafted, and then the dungeon rings. The same applies to belts. That's 6 different rings from that alone. 7 if you include savage 8-man. They also usually only have 1 meld slot unless it's tomestone or savage raid.

    Point: you wouldn't roll on them in 24 mans anyway because you'd rather take the bigger upgrade from the 4 major left-side pieces.
    (9)

  4. #4
    Player
    Barraind's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2018
    Posts
    1,113
    Character
    Barraind Faylestar
    World
    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90
    There's a reason they removed belts from 24 man raids.
    Belts are not a glamor'able slot, which is the biggest reason they got axed.

    Rings make the most sense of potential non-major leftside pieces. If you aren't raiding, rings from alliance raids would compete for available best in slot, where they arent for any other slot.



    That's 6 different rings from that alone. 7 if you include savage 8-man.
    There are 2 rings at max (non-weapon) ilvl: savage and upgraded tome, and 2 at -10 ilvl: upgraded crafted and tome. Upgraded crafted rings only have 1 materia slot. Alliance raid is max ilvl -10.

    That said, anything that lowers drop rate for glam pieces is probably not worth it.
    (0)
    Last edited by Barraind; 08-27-2020 at 11:12 AM.

  5. #5
    Player Doozer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Location
    Eureka Orthos
    Posts
    2,007
    Character
    Gunnar Mel'nik
    World
    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 90
    It would be nice if alliance raids dropped accessories, and having the option to get decent ilevel ones from that repeatable quest for Dun Scaith was nice. I wish we could do that again.
    (0)

  6. #6
    Player
    Stepjam's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2019
    Posts
    1,203
    Character
    Gabriel Morgan
    World
    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Personally I'm glad they don't drop rings. I largely get alliance raid gear based on cosmetics, so accessories would just dilute the pool of what's available.

    It was already annoying enough in older alliance raids when you get nothing but belts in a chest. I know accessories have a cosmetic element, but they are so small and often hidden that I'd prefer that they remain out. Besides you can get accessories for stats from plenty of places.
    (9)

  7. #7
    Player Doozer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Location
    Eureka Orthos
    Posts
    2,007
    Character
    Gunnar Mel'nik
    World
    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Stepjam View Post
    Personally I'm glad they don't drop rings. I largely get alliance raid gear based on cosmetics, so accessories would just dilute the pool of what's available.

    It was already annoying enough in older alliance raids when you get nothing but belts in a chest. I know accessories have a cosmetic element, but they are so small and often hidden that I'd prefer that they remain out. Besides you can get accessories for stats from plenty of places.
    They could just double up on the drop slots. One armour and one accessory. I feel like some dungeons do that, maybe I'm wrong.
    (1)

  8. #8
    Player
    kaynide's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Posts
    2,879
    Character
    Kris Goldenshield
    World
    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 100
    As said, not always the case but accessories (and weapons for that matter) were something that was part of alternative content. If memory serves, trials were often used in 2.0 for accessories with a shift to the 8 man raid. Especially since it typically just took 1 token to get an accessory.

    I want to say they divide it up to encourage people to do different content. In addition if 24 man raids DID drop accessories, it would double the number of weeks to get the full set of both armor and accessories.

    As is, one could do both the most current 8 man and 24 man raids to get geared up in a rather reasonable amount of time, especially if you just went for accessories in the 8 man.

    This doesn’t even take into account tomestone gear which typically is fairly competitive as well, especially as it is upgraded using 24-man raid tokens.

    So as is we typically already have crafted, tomestone and 8 man raid sets, all fairly competitive...in addition to 24 man raids already tied to tomestone upgrades, I don’t really see the need to add more unless it was an alternative grind a la Bozja.
    (0)
    Last edited by kaynide; 08-27-2020 at 12:36 PM.

  9. #9
    Player
    Vahlnir's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2013
    Location
    Tent In the Middle of Nowhere
    Posts
    9,647
    Character
    Elan Centauri
    World
    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    I'm glad that they don't, and I'm also glad that they abandoned belt drops. Seriously, no one is running 24 man raids for belts. They are there for the glamour mostly. I really did like having that quest for Dun Scaith every week though, so I wouldn't mind seeing something like that again.
    (3)

  10. #10
    Player Mhaeric's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Location
    Vancouver, BC
    Posts
    2,141
    Character
    Mhaeric Llystrom
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 97
    Gear drops are just for glamour in 24 person raids. You can use the weekly token to upgrade a Crystarium ring.
    (2)

Page 1 of 3 1 2 3 LastLast