Bot's on Market Board...? Really?

[Selphyna]

I came back on FF after 4years, thinking i would take back some crafting, and right on my 1 day of play, i noticed something wrong, i craft an chest lvl 70 for gatherers, where there was none of it on MB, and when i come check later, a person appear, i think it's normal, a player, but no, cuz while i started crafting items and stuff around 70to80, i didn't even got the time that every mins, the bot changed the price by 1gil.

I live on night, and my roommate on day, we checked basically 24h to see if "Mjare Kirin" disconnect, but no, he's always connected, never absent. And drop price every mins, he's a lvl 71 whm, with only crafters at 80, in a FC with 9 people, and closed, he is as the same spot h24, an appartment. I went check others servers, to see if i find people like that. And yes, i finded one in each, with 1 lvl 70 or 80, and only crafters/gatherers full 80, with an FC closed of around ten people too.

I didn't wanted believe that Bots got into MB, but yes they did, and it's frustrating on the fact, crafting was my only way to get money to support my FC and friends, but now with theses ridiculous prices that have no sense, you got final result less expensive than if you crafted it by yourself, where is the pleasure in it ? I crafted an minion that his mats costed me more than buying directly the minion crafted by bots. And SE wont resolve this, if they failed in FFXI, don't expect miracle in FF14, the economy is broke, no wonder alot of players just buy gils. It's so disapointing, i will try ask refund of my expansion, cuz i regret my come back. Really. Courage to the others craft-lovers, i EXACTLY understand what you guys/girls feel.

[Adephagos]

I came back on FF after 4years, thinking i would take back some crafting, and right on my 1 day of play, i noticed something wrong, i craft an chest lvl 70 for gatherers, where there was none of it on MB, and when i come check later, a person appear, i think it's normal, a player, but no, cuz while i started crafting items and stuff around 70to80, i didn't even got the time that every mins, the bot changed the price by 1gil.

I live on night, and my roommate on day, we checked basically 24h to see if "Mjare Kirin" disconnect, but no, he's always connected, never absent. And drop price every mins, he's a lvl 71 whm, with only crafters at 80, in a FC with 9 people, and closed, he is as the same spot h24, an appartment. I went check others servers, to see if i find people like that. And yes, i finded one in each, with 1 lvl 70 or 80, and only crafters/gatherers full 80, with an FC closed of around ten people too.

I didn't wanted believe that Bots got into MB, but yes they did, and it's frustrating on the fact, crafting was my only way to get money to support my FC and friends, but now with theses ridiculous prices that have no sense, you got final result less expensive than if you crafted it by yourself, where is the pleasure in it ? I crafted an minion that his mats costed me more than buying directly the minion crafted by bots. And SE wont resolve this, if they failed in FFXI, don't expect miracle in FF14, the economy is broke, no wonder alot of players just buy gils. It's so disapointing, i will try ask refund of my expansion, cuz i regret my come back. Really. Courage to the others craft-lovers, i EXACTLY understand what you guys/girls feel.

We have the same issue in Primal (same situation, one person owner of a closed FC, having 9-11 people, which active constantly are between 3 and 4, have easily each character 6 retirners) I reported the player with a good amount of details, the use of multi accounts, timer cycles, etc, and... nothing happened. They are still out there with impunity, the GMs were more worried banning people for posting "unrelated things" in the PF.

[Seleni]

I live on night, and my roommate on day, we checked basically 24h to see if "Mjare Kirin" disconnect, but no, he's always connected, never absent. And drop price every mins, he's a lvl 71 whm, with only crafters at 80, in a FC with 9 people, and closed, he is as the same spot h24, an appartment. I went check others servers, to see if i find people like that. And yes, i finded one in each, with 1 lvl 70 or 80, and only crafters/gatherers full 80, with an FC closed of around ten people too.

...That sounded almost like me last week while I was leveling last few levels of my crafter jobs (other than culinary) and then starting on my path to craft the aesthete’s set for myself. >_>

I have a solo FC to ward off random invites, too.

When your DoW/DoM job is far below your crafting jobs, you’re content locked from gathering your own mats anyway. Lower-level mats can be gathered by sending out retainers, and the rest can all be purchased off MB. The only time you’d actually need to step out of your apartment/house is for trips to MB which is right outside the apartment.

I had to rely on GC turn-ins and Ixali dailies for venture coins. And I turned to fishing glamour for additional gil source. (I guess I’m a gambler at heart). Plus I made daily trips to Providence Point. So I probably was out more than a more well-funded crafter would.

In short, aside from the constant market price adjustment, what you described is simply a pure crafter/merchant that’s not all that interested to other aspects of the game. It’s not proof for botting.

But I only adjust my MB prices once or twice a day. (Too lazy)

As for the finished product costing less than mats combined, that seems nearly always the case while leveling. (It’s probably result of leveling crafters buying mats and then dumping finished product on MB) Plus there are HQ quest rewards, kupo stamp and venture drops. I tend to just give up on an item when I don’t see a maker’s signature on MB listings.