Bot's on Market Board...? Really?

[NanaWiloh]

Well I'm not crying about it at all. I'm simply privy to this information and it makes sense that I have to constantly check the MB as there is this insane undercutting game going on behind the scenes. This ruins the crafting gameplay, and I don't have the time to out bid a computer program as it's going to win every time. This isn't about profits or costs of materials, it's about manipulating a market from a game that the BOT controller has NO STACK IN.

This individual or group that admins 20-30 or even 50 bots do this not to upset the players. They do it because it's actually lucrative real money business. If they made $250 a day selling gil for real money that's $7,500 a month! this is still a win for the them as it covers there costs of subs for the month, and more money then I can generate in a month given my career. This is cheating and a sheer exploit. WoW had this. FFXI had this. LoTRO had this. And countless other MMO's.

If I was a company and a select few people were EXPLOITING and USING my product for there own personal gain, they would be in violation and I would bring the ban hammer down hard on these people, as well as legal action and seize there capital gained.

This is NO different then cheating in an eSports tournament when real money is at stack. Or rigging a gambling event (poker, slots, blackjack). Or someone writing a song and someone else downloading it for free (napster gone, limewire gone) Or someone infringing on patent regulations until the patent runs out. This is called fairness. There is NO SKILL in cheating, that's why it's called cheating. Same goes for making a bot program do all the work for you to attain real money.

How in Hydalens butt, does one play the MB and not care about profit?? The bots undercutting effects your ability to sell goods at prices you agree with. Which is why you are complaining about them cause they are killing your selling power. If you dont care about profit then it stands to reason you should not care about undercutting.

[Sqwall]

How in Hydalens butt, does one play the MB and not care about profit?? The bots undercutting effects your ability to sell goods at prices you agree with. Which is why you are complaining about them cause they are killing your selling power. If you dont care about profit then it stands to reason you should not care about undercutting.

I suppose what I meant there the principal is that bot's don't care about profit. If they have a nearly unlimited supply due to not sacrificing time they can price however they want. The simple explanation: The village get's it's water from the man that owns the well, the well is bottomless and infinite, everyone in the village needs his water and they don't want to go to the next village over as it would require 3 hours one way by walking.

The man that owns the well understands he is the only supply of water which everyone needs, so he starts to increase his prices to quit his job. The village isn't happy, but pay the man anyway because they need the water to live. The man continues to raise his prices alongside the villages ire towards him. Until one day another villager has had enough of paying for exuberant prices and attempts to find his own water source. He drills on his own land and finds a water source deep and infinite. He installs a larger pump which can pump water faster and without any maintenance or supervision. It just run's day and night pumping and pumping.

Well the original man selling water is outraged of this and tries to undercut the man, but he can't keep up with demand as his pump is small and requires many repairs. The man never invested to keep his operation running, which allowed for competition to destroy him.

"How can you sell water so cheap and make a living?" asked the man.
"Easy" said the new water mogul. "It's your water I tapped into. It just so happens to stretch to my land. The only difference is I don't care about profits to be happy, but the villagers don't care where the water comes from, as long as it's cheap."

Moral of this "story" is. Economics is delicate and everything can be taken from those that don't defend it. If you don't care about profits? How do you combat that?.... These bot's only care about selling, and selling fast. Profits don't matter to them as long as they have an infinite supply over us.

Fix the gathering....Crafting will take care of itself.