Bot's on Market Board...? Really?

[Nixxe]

From google searching on this, it seems MB bots are far less publicly available than gathering or combat bots. Probably the main reason is because releasing it to the public is impractical, for example 2 or more bots competing and the fact that for the average player it's just not worth camping a MB for tiny profit and grinding prices into the dust when your bot could be out gathering or gil farming. The usual ff14 bots won't add the feature. MB bots do seem to exist, but they're created and sold by commission, or used by, private developers.

I find that sort of thing rather interesting, but it's very disturbing how much of a botting community there is. I think the biggest issues for prices are gathering bots creating massive supply and the fact crafting is just far too easy now, with demand at an all time low since there are ten times more sellers, but far less buyers since more people can just make their own.

There was a rather prominent bot in WoW that was used for farming a PVP currency and while I was surprised to learn just how much of a community it had, I guess I really shouldn't have been. It forms for the same reasons as any other community: people have some sort of shared experience they wish to discuss. I think the fact that they saw the bot developers as helping them against Blizzard's "unfair" insistence that they actually play the game to earn the rewards helped.

Of course, then Blizzard found a way to easily and reliably identify people who were using the bot and was basically able to just nuke them from orbit. The people developing the bot finally gave up. The community that formed around it went supernova. Not sure SE is really capable of the same though, as I believe WoW did it with their Warden stuff, which basically just spies on your computer and keeps tabs of what programs are running and interacting with the WoW client (it's been a while and I don't remember exactly what it did anymore). I don't think SE has an equivalent for FFXIV.

I always assumed those numbers are the guys shouting in Limsa and other places advertising RMT. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

RMT advertising is its own category.

・RMT advertising
　・Accounts terminated: 922

[Sqwall]

The community that formed around it went supernova. Not sure SE is really capable of the same though, as I believe WoW did it with their Warden stuff, which basically just spies on your computer and keeps tabs of what programs are running and interacting with the WoW client (it's been a while and I don't remember exactly what it did anymore). I don't think SE has an equivalent for FFXIV.

1. SE has said in the past and still holds firm today that they do not and will not use anything to spy on your PC. This opens a lot of doors for litigation as Blizzard, Steam, Activision (lately) have gotten into hot water about. The one that springs to mind is DOOM eternal having a warden that had an software that went on the actual kernel to watch dog for cheating software. This ruins clock cycles and performance. Google this and you can clearly see the problems it introduces and for a game like WoW would be MUCH easier to implement as it requires much less in the resource department.

2. Sony and SE have strict understanding on how the game will work and operate through PSN and SE servers. PSN is merely the door to SE servers. If SE were to implement a program to watchdog something for PC they would have to introduce this for PS4 as well. I doubt SONY would offer that up anytime soon as the software/hardware is propriety and under lock and key outside the dev kits they issue. If you affect one part of the FFXIV world you have to assume they would do the other half of the world.

This is mostly why it is very hard for SE to fix this, and was the exact same situation for FFXI. When you cross console, it limits your control on the game as you have to abide by the rules of who you are having allow access. This is why FFXIV is NOT on XBOX 1 this console generation as SE and Microsoft's corporate values didn't line up, and I believe is was centered on how the patches were implemented is what SE walked away from. I think this has been addressed for XBOX series X iteration.

This is why DDoS attacks, security breaches, credit card information, and bank information is held in such high regard and is also very tricky to implement.

The only company that does this as a shinning example is probably Valve (steam). They seem to have figured it out and have been for some time, and have a good track record which the customer trusts.

[Nixxe]

1. SE has said in the past and still holds firm today that they do not and will not use anything to spy on your PC.

I was unaware that they had commented on that matter, but it makes sense. It's not like they couldn't develop a Warden equivalent if they wanted to.

And even if they did, botting is still a very difficult issue to tackle. I'm not sure what has transpired in WoW since the event that I mentioned as I quit over two years ago, but having monitoring software did not do a whole lot for Blizzard for a long time, and I even personally knew people who botted things like gathering with impunity, albeit for personal use and not for gold selling purposes. It was only during Legion that they seemed to get quite good at identifying botters, which probably has to do with how intrusive Warden or any similar programs are combined with game systems that increasingly make botting worthless, not some brilliant breakthrough in anti-botting strategies.

[Shinzan]

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