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Thread: New Races

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    New Races

    When they announced the new races they said they would add more hair and headgear support down the road. It's been a year now, do you expect we will see something in the lasts 5.x patches or it would be in 6.0?
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    Since we're in 5.3 now, they'll probably add both the missing sexes and the hairstyle options with 6.0 (hopefully NOT locked behind the expansion, but just part of the patch)
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    When i see a Lalafell character wearing a cute glam

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    Hopefully they'll add more customization to the existing races and won't cave and waste resources on useless things such as male Viera.
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    I'm not expecting male viera/female hrothgar. I could be wrong but it feels like the dev team can barely handle the races they have now, adding two more player character models with the same issues viera/hrothgar have just doesn't seem like it's in the cards for their current budget.

    I'd like to see them added on principle. I would have much rather had both options for Viera OR Hrothgar instead of one gender for reach race. I wouldn't even care which of the two it was. I don't like gender locked races or classes as a concept, I was surprised they repeated this mistake after they went through the trouble to add male Miqo'te and female highlanders/roegadyn when 1.0 didn't have them.

    I get why they did it, they wanted to add a beast race while also appeasing fan demands for viera, but instead of making both sides happy I feel they made another mess that they SHOULD have learned from already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bright-Flower View Post
    I'm not expecting male viera/female hrothgar. I could be wrong but it feels like the dev team can barely handle the races they have now, adding two more player character models with the same issues viera/hrothgar have just doesn't seem like it's in the cards for their current budget.

    I'd like to see them added on principle. I would have much rather had both options for Viera OR Hrothgar instead of one gender for reach race. I wouldn't even care which of the two it was. I don't like gender locked races or classes as a concept, I was surprised they repeated this mistake after they went through the trouble to add male Miqo'te and female highlanders/roegadyn when 1.0 didn't have them.

    I get why they did it, they wanted to add a beast race while also appeasing fan demands for viera, but instead of making both sides happy I feel they made another mess that they SHOULD have learned from already.
    It seems like there's a bigger fan outcry for Viera.

    They should have finished the Viera, let them use different hairstyles and hats and given them male and female options and not bothered with Hrothgar.

    Then next expansion give us Hrothgar with optimized customization, separated hair and face options and a female.

    I love Hrothgar, I want them in the game but I would have accepted waiting longer for something more complete. My biggest worry with the Hrothgar is SE seeing their lack of popularity and putting it down to "beast races aren't liked" instead of "people don't like needing fantasias to change hairstyles and want to be able to use the things they bought or earned in game"
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    in both races Hrothgar should have priority on updates tho since the hair is tied to the head, so they have to use a fantasia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aluja89 View Post
    Hopefully they'll add more customization to the existing races and won't cave and waste resources on useless things such as male Viera.
    AFAIK the customization options are pretty limited because of spaghetti reasons. Like, the game code can only support a certain amount of customizations per character. So for example the Hrothgar gain fur pattern and color compared to Miqo'te, but lose hair options. As much as I'd like to spend even more time in the character creator, I think we're unlikely to get any additions on that front.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayuhra View Post
    It seems like there's a bigger fan outcry for Viera.

    They should have finished the Viera, let them use different hairstyles and hats and given them male and female options and not bothered with Hrothgar.

    Then next expansion give us Hrothgar with optimized customization, separated hair and face options and a female.

    I love Hrothgar, I want them in the game but I would have accepted waiting longer for something more complete. My biggest worry with the Hrothgar is SE seeing their lack of popularity and putting it down to "beast races aren't liked" instead of "people don't like needing fantasias to change hairstyles and want to be able to use the things they bought or earned in game"
    I don't think Hrothgar was made to be parity of popularity to the other races. It was made to offer something the game didn't really offer.

    If you've got 8 flavors of chocolate because it's popular that's nice but there is a unique value in offering NOT chocolate even if it'll be inherently less popular. As one option just spreads around the choices, and sure might add some nice phantasia money, but the other, new flavor, can actually fill a void not even utilized before.

    If they sincerely can only add one race, I'm glad they did it this way.

    Of course having it all would be nice, not going to say no to that lol, but if their system or budget desire is "we're only going to do this once" then I feel this was the best.

    I get you were saying do each one properly and fully in order, but the fact they didn't makes me think they wont or can't without some extreme rebuilding of the core. Like issue with the character creator and Hrothgar's hair or Au Ra horns or some races getting ear sliders while others get muscle sliders, etc.

    Alternatively, if it's not a core coding issue which I believe it is more likely, it could also be pretty ingenious if not a bit diabolical, lol, plan to secure a hook with the next expansion. Don't really need to require a purchase either but it'll garner attention assuredly. Since like I said I don't think hrothgar are here for the reason to be most popular they're here to be a new flavor, so separating out the races as a pure viera release and hrothgar would probably not be as financially assured / noise generating as splitting them and making something hot be part of both releases and also makes them look good (due to feedback we hear you *whispers under breath, this was our plan all along muahahahahaha*).

    Of course a character creator update would be nice but it seems they're hyper hesitant on that, perhaps at the next dalamud or something xD. And again of course having it all, and all of it smoothly, would be nice lol, just saying if they were going to add two genders to the game via one race and 'that was that' then I prefer this route as it offers a fan demand but also an element that wasn't really present in game.
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    Last edited by Shougun; 08-25-2020 at 04:04 AM.

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    Please stop with new races as this game don’t need it
    WoW keep bring in new races because their devs are incompetent in creating meaningful contents to make people remain subsribed
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    Don't be selfish adding new headgear requires a lot of work and given the current world's situation you shouldn't be asking for much
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