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    Quote Originally Posted by Recon1o6 View Post
    this is your periodic reminder that Summon Seraph is actually the deleted/needlessly removed skill Rouse bumped up to 80 with a smol rebalance to make sure you don't notice, in this case, its adding a shield to embrace while quietly nerfing whispering dawn so it wont be buffed

    As others have mentioned, pets have a % of your stats but its suspected to vary between ACN, SMN and SCH. Though in 5.0 SE put significant effort into deleting them and weakening the surviving mechanics to being negligable and I know when you are an ACN they have 30% of your stats which is appalling, but in practice its less than that. (my ruin 40 damage, emerald carbuncle, 2, really?)

    In terms of how weak the sch fairy is, by default, its much weaker than before. How much? Lets visit the patch archives that SE is desperate to hide from us this expansion

    2.0-4.0 potency embrace 250, in 5.0 its 150 potency. Rouse took old embrace up to 350 potency for its duration. Seraph's equivalent does 200 potency plus a shield, however seraph lasts less time due to SE deliberately building in a delay despite what the timer says and ghosts sometimes resulting in missing heals

    angel's whisper the aoe seraph regen: potency is 120 for 21 seconds. That's exactly the same as whispering dawn in 5.0, just a glamour difference. In previous years, you could Rouse eos and boost that to 168 potency.

    Fey illumination is actually the merging and nerfing of two older skills. Fey covenant (buff magic defence of self and nearby party members by 20%) and Eos' illumination (increased healing potency by 20% of self and party members
    Not that I disagree with you about Seraph being a somewhat rebalanced version of old Rouse but some of your data are incorrect and doesn't belong to SHB adjustment.

    2.0-3.5 : Embrace = 300 Pot
    4.0-4.5 = Embrace = 250 Pot
    5.0 = Embrace 150 Pot.

    They gradually nerfed it.

    Same goes for Fey Illumination. The nerf to 10% has been made in Stormblood while Scholar gained Largess.
    As for Whispering Dawn, its initial potency from 2.0 to 4.3 was 100, could be boosted by Rouse. In the patch when they fixed Fairy responsivness, you couldn't pair rouse with WD anymore, but the base potency were raise at 120 in exchange for that nerf.

    So, I agree and dislike what have been done with Scholar, but every fairy nerf don't belong to SHB alone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KDSilver View Post
    Not that I disagree with you about Seraph being a somewhat rebalanced version of old Rouse but some of your data are incorrect and doesn't belong to SHB adjustment.

    2.0-3.5 : Embrace = 300 Pot
    4.0-4.5 = Embrace = 250 Pot
    5.0 = Embrace 150 Pot.

    They gradually nerfed it.

    Same goes for Fey Illumination. The nerf to 10% has been made in Stormblood while Scholar gained Largess.
    As for Whispering Dawn, its initial potency from 2.0 to 4.3 was 100, could be boosted by Rouse. In the patch when they fixed Fairy responsivness, you couldn't pair rouse with WD anymore, but the base potency were raise at 120 in exchange for that nerf.

    So, I agree and dislike what have been done with Scholar, but every fairy nerf don't belong to SHB alone.
    I thought I missed a nerf somewhere with the embrace. Serves me right for looking at 1am in the morning
    That old whispering dawn is still a step up if you compare rouse to seraph, rouse granted an equivalent of 140 potency at its weakest, which is better than seraph which doesn't change.

    The current fey illunimation did take its weaker defence buff from eos' older skill. Being lowered from 20% to 5% is a nasty nerf.


    Some days I regret not levelling sch past 50 on my alt. I think I would have liked it at 70.
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