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  1. #61
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    Business works like politics, people are loving him for his current small fixes that might not actually be his, and LOVING him for his campaign promises that 2.0 will cure cancer and world hunger. I'd rather shake the hand of the person who has the good ideas instead of just the person who has veto power.

    2.0 will tell us if he is worthy of some praise, but I'll still praise his team more. The people who raise him up on their shoulders already, before he has delivered, are people who have fallen for the promises before they're a reality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramul View Post
    I don't want XI-2.
    I want XIV with a world as interesting and dangerous as XI.



    How many times must it be said before people understand that the XI that we liked has long sense gone the way of the SNES satilite drive?
    Listen to Gramul people. He is exactly right. FFXI's glory days are long since gone. We don't want the crap that's been added recently, I'm not going to exactly say when it went down the tubes as i'm sure we all have our own 2 cents about that. We just want the nice and exciting zones, the beautiful music, and that special experience and relationship to the world.
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  3. #63
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rydin View Post
    While he has done a good job... I wouldn't call him an "amazing director" just yet...
    We still have yet to see the bulk of his contribution.
    Also, he has some proven and tested final fantasy developers on his staff...
    He may end up proving his greatness... 2.0 will definitely be quite a barometer... but right here, right now, calling him "amazing" is jumping the gun a little...

    And I'm actually a fan of Yoshi and what he is doing... Let's just try to be realistic
    Rydin and I agree/disagree on fundamentals but I always believe that he brings up good points. This is one of them and one that we share.

    The fans are putting a ton of unrealistic emphasis on 2.0. I know that part of it has to do with the common response of "...in 2.0..." but we let our imaginations run wild. I really hope people keep expectations realistic. No, realistic is not "I'm a paying customer and I DEMAND my socks be blown off" - that's entitlement. Hope for the best, expect better than now, and be prepared for something in between.
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  4. #64
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yves View Post
    Rydin and I agree/disagree on fundamentals but I always believe that he brings up good points. This is one of them and one that we share.

    The fans are putting a ton of unrealistic emphasis on 2.0. I know that part of it has to do with the common response of "...in 2.0..." but we let our imaginations run wild. I really hope people keep expectations realistic. No, realistic is not "I'm a paying customer and I DEMAND my socks be blown off" - that's entitlement. Hope for the best, expect better than now, and be prepared for something in between.
    Awww... I feel the Yves love
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  5. #65
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    It's funny how everyone was crying that the game was so broken, then S-E announces 2.0 with a long list of drastic changes and only the XI fanboys keep saying how it will suck or that it's no big deal. Yet whenever they talk it sounds like they haven't even read half the documentation, they just skipped over everything that didn't sound like XI port.... which is pretty much everything.
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  6. #66
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    Quote Originally Posted by Onidemon View Post
    It's funny how everyone was crying that the game was so broken, then S-E announces 2.0 with a long list of drastic changes and only the XI fanboys keep saying how it will suck or that it's no big deal. Yet whenever they talk it sounds like they haven't even read half the documentation, they just skipped over everything that didn't sound like XI port.... which is pretty much everything.
    On the contrary, 2.0 sounds a lot like they took the good components of XI and brought them back while implementing good ideas from other games with some original content (probably not original, tbh.)

    I feel bad that people are so divided.
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  7. #67
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yves View Post
    On the contrary, 2.0 sounds a lot like they took the good components of XI and brought them back while implementing good ideas from other games with some original content (probably not original, tbh.)

    I feel bad that people are so divided.
    I agree
    Yves, stop making me agree with you....
    I don't like this

    But yes... I am anxious to see 2.0....
    (Next part not directed at Yves... just general Commentary)
    Since this game technically has 2 FFXI directors still on staff (Even without Tanaka, we still have Akihiko Matsui and Nobuaki Komoto) there is going to be FFXI ideas all throughout. Just how much... Well that's Yoshi's call... And I am ok with that
    If you either want all FFXI or None of FFXI then you are probably setting yourself up for disappointment... but if you'd like the devs to find a happy medium... and have an open mind.. you just might enjoy what comes
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    Last edited by Rydin; 04-12-2012 at 09:55 AM.

  8. #68
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rydin View Post
    I agree
    Yves, stop making me agree with you....
    I don't like this

    But yes... I am anxious to see 2.0....
    (Next part not directed at Yves... just general Commentary)
    Since this game technically has 2 FFXI directors still on staff (Even without Tanaka, we still have Akihiko Matsui and Nobuaki Komoto) there is going to be FFXI ideas all throughout. Just how much... Well that's Yoshi's call... And I am ok with that
    If you either want all FFXI or None of FFXI then you are probably setting yourself up for disappointment... but if you'd like the devs to find a happy medium... and have an open mind.. you just might enjoy what comes
    Yup, agree again. This is getting weird.

    We need to fight aboot something. I dislike your...face? That works, I think.
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  9. #69
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yves View Post
    On the contrary, 2.0 sounds a lot like they took the good components of XI and brought them back while implementing good ideas from other games with some original content (probably not original, tbh.)

    I feel bad that people are so divided.
    What in 2.0 is from XI exactly? I failed to see that it seems....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Onidemon View Post
    What in 2.0 is from XI exactly? I failed to see that it seems....
    thats the thing though... if you're excited about 2.0 and you enjoyed the stuff you've read... then who cares where its from?
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