You need to give up on XI-2

[Onidemon]

This is not to start a fight with anyone but just to make some people here realize something.

I get that a lot of you love XI, i myself have great memories from it. But you need to understand that this game was never intended to be XI-2. Yes it has similar races and world but that it is because the same people did it and IMO they just lacked imagination.

Yes i agree with all the people saying that this game would have been better if it was XI-2, there is no doubt about that as XIV sucked big time. The game does have it's issues and still a lot to fix but everytime we encounter a problem, we should use our head to find an originals solution instead of just quoting a feature from XI. Even if the game could benefit from features taken from XI, there is still tons of ways to make this game better.

If you rather play XI or rather have XI features then features original to XIV then just play XI. You don't see me in WOW or AION or wtv other mmo's forums asking the devs to turn it into another game? If i don't like what it is then i just don't play it.

When the next S-E MMO comes out in 10 years, will you still ask for XI-3, or XIV-2? Do you want to play the same game forever?

Is the way XI made the only possible way to make an MMO? Of course not, don't be lazy and just try to come up with your own ideas and help make this game what XIV should have been and not a shadow of the past.

[Green_and_a_Half]

"we should use our head to find an originals solution instead of just quoting a feature from XI"
this is the problem,
11 was not influenced by the players in the way that 14 has been,
everyone thinking they have a right to petition and fix 14
With this, we get all these noob players thinking they have a Right to be heard because they are paying for a game.
http://xivpads.com/?8287534
you think having 2 jobs at 30 qualifies you to be able to say "Yes i agree with all the people saying that this game would have been better if it was XI-2, there is no doubt about that as XIV sucked big time." and "there is still tons of ways to make this game better. "



I played 11 for 6 years and was happy when there was an update. When MMM was weak, I waited, and it got fixed. When mana burn stopped being great, I lvled brd to get in on the tp burn merit pts.
With AV open now in 14 I had to lvl mnk to 50 to get in on the speed runs.

Just play the games you like and stop thinking you (everyone) need to be heard.

[Jinko]

Agree with both posts.

Although I'm not sure why Green_and_a_Half is attacking the OP, aren't you both saying the same thing ?

[Alerith]

[Green_and_a_Half]

I'm saying "don't be lazy and just try to come up with your own ideas and help make this game what XIV should have been and not a shadow of the past."
statements like this need to stop, that's whats wrong with 14, everyone thinking they need to fix it instead of just playing the game.

[StateAlchemist]

The problem is when people ignore an easy solution that the company MAKING this game already had implemented in another game they ALREADY made and instead thinking hey we don't wanna turn this into XI-2...better do the exact opposite of what we did before...that was Tanaka's thinking and look where it got the game...a completely failed launch.

Eveything this game was missing that FFXI had people complained about not having it. And the ones raising hell about it now are mostly the people who either played FFXI and didn't like it, or never played it and want FFXIV to be a version 2 of their favorite MMO.

It doesn't matter what FFXIV takes from any other MMO this isn;t FFXI-2 this isn't WOW-2 or anythingelse-2. That certainly doesn't change the fact that FFXI has some very well implemented features that would make this game 10x better. (Maybe other MMOs do to idk.) But saying not to use it JUST BECAUSE is stupid and ignorant.

[Irishwars]

Alerith is right, how many times can people make the same F8cking thread over and over again. I guess alot nvm

[Gramul]

I don't want XI-2.
I want XIV with a world as interesting and dangerous as XI.

If you rather play XI or rather have XI features then features original to XIV then just play XI.

How many times must it be said before people understand that the XI that we liked has long sense gone the way of the SNES satilite drive?

[CrystalWeapon]

FFXI isn't as bad as some people are making it seem. I still play both games, and I enjoy both games. XI is just lacking content designed for the new level cap atm.

[Wevlum]

The problem is when people ignore an easy solution that the company MAKING this game already had implemented in another game they ALREADY made and instead thinking hey we don't wanna turn this into XI-2...better do the exact opposite of what we did before...that was Tanaka's thinking and look where it got the game...a completely failed launch.

Eveything this game was missing that FFXI had people complained about not having it. And the ones raising hell about it now are mostly the people who either played FFXI and didn't like it, or never played it and want FFXIV to be a version 2 of their favorite MMO.

It doesn't matter what FFXIV takes from any other MMO this isn;t FFXI-2 this isn't WOW-2 or anythingelse-2. That certainly doesn't change the fact that FFXI has some very well implemented features that would make this game 10x better. (Maybe other MMOs do to idk.) But saying not to use it JUST BECAUSE is stupid and ignorant.

This pretty much.

The problem is people are to averse to FFXI and WoW that anything either of these mmos have so much as looked at is deemed tainted and unworthy of FFXIV. I don't want this to be FFXI-2 but suggestions like "why can't we have these basic things such as mailbox or linkshell commands" aren't about turning FFXIV into FFXI-2, they're about it's 2012 and we should view ideas on their own merits instead of rejecting them straight away and trying to reinvent the wheel like Tanaka tried.

Petitioning for HNMS is turning it into FFXI-2, petitioning for drops to be passable "like in dynamis" (/cough Ifrit /cough) is just wanting the game to be less stupid in its execution.