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    Renkei Fukai
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    Except they're clearly not the same image. It has most of the image seen from clicking on my link, but is then suspiciously missing the whole top bar included in each of my posts. Should I instead call it seemingly subjected to "the removal of unwanted outer areas from a photographic or illustrated image"?

    1. That wasn't my premise.
    2. DRG's power is listed in the parenthetical after every image.


    "Over the past expansion cycle" is not here; I clarified this because you seem to have thought that the weight of your unseen past arguments were somehow contributing to this thread. I then preceded to post every word of actual suggestions you've posted here, the limits of your actual contribution to this thread.


    You honestly want to argue that "this expansion cycle almost every fight" prevents control of character for "more than 58 (consecutive) seconds"?


    I am not aware of almost every fight denying me control of character for more than 58 consecutive seconds, but I am quite used to delaying LotD on my DRG character, yes.

    Geirskogul being a given a further charge would not necessitate that, with a charge system, it would share timers with Nastrond. Such would, after all, force Geirskogul to a 10-second recharge time or Nastrond to a 30-second recharge timer.

    What is this "5 second penalty" you are referring to?

    Do you mean "Eye" (progress step) or "Life of the Dragon" (the 30-second Geirskogul-upgrading phase activated by Gierskogul after generating the requisite number of "Eyes")?



    You stepped in poop, giving us 2 posts of diversion, and then insisted on rolling around in said poop to generate a further 2 pages of waste. Move on.

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    It looks like there may be a lot of good that could come out of your charge idea, but it's very difficult to understand at present. Could you elaborate more clearly?
    They are the same exact image.

    I Don't need to argue it because we both know that In Savage Content has unpreventable breaks in the Final Fight.

    my Unseen past arguments? does making my arguments more seen somehow justify them to be more important? I am pretty sure most of them were seen whether they are popular opinion is something i don't care about, as popular opinion doesn't have to be factual as it's subjected to only being accepted by the majority regardless of it's factual significance.

    Geirskogul wouldn't receive a further charge, and it already shares a timer with Nastrond, if you've done a 6 Nastrond Weave you'd be aware of this.
    The Penalty you recieve from having Nastrod half off CD converts directly into Geirskoguls timer.

    You are willing to use anything as a straw-man or a mote and bailey that's why you defended the MNK argument? You don't take your own behavior into account. what a double standard.

    2 Pages of Waste? All you did was grab a bunch of suggestions that you claim were unseen suggested over the past 2 years and then take credit for them all on your own.

    Guess you have something to wipe with after what you laid earlier.

    I'll argue that lot's of fights have 58 second transitions where you cannot control your character because it's true. Play the game. E1S, E4S, E8S, Ruby Weapon, Hades, Warrior Light. All have these transitions, Not to mention both alliance raids have transitions like this too because of the long walk times in-between areas. That's 6 out 11 Fights, Making it so that most fights in this expansion factually having a transition like this.

    lets Move pass all the for-mentioned Bull.

    When you use Geirskogul it already shares a CD with Nastrod, You can see this if you mess up using it on purpose [or accident], effectively you can make it so Activating LIFE of the Dragon (2 Eyes > Geirskogul) Grants 1 CHARGE of Nastrond and behaves the same as other charge abilities, but only enters into charge state when Life of the dragon is activated.

    The Effect would be described as this in the Tooltip.
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    Life of the Dragon TRAIT.

    Allows for the strengthening of the gaze of the first brood upon using Mirage Dive while under the effect of Blood of the Dragon. When the gaze is its strongest (2 units), Geirskogul will grant you the Life of the Dragon status in place of Blood of the Dragon. While under the effect of Life of the Dragon, Geirskogul will change to Nastrond Resetting to 1 Charge. Life of the Dragon will revert to Blood of the Dragon when duration expires.


    Nastrond 10 Seconds 3 Charge Max.


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    Example of Charges : 2 Eye > Geirskogul > Life of the Dragon = Charge +1 > Nastrond > Wait 10 seconds > Charge +1 > Nastrond > Wait 10 seconds > Charge +1. > Nastrond > Wait 9 seconds > Blood of the Dragon.

    Effectively, entering Life of the Dragon will reset Nastrond Charge to 1 no matter what because Geirskogul by itself cannot accumulate charges. This effectively would allow you to miss an ENTIRE window of Nastronds, at the cost of 1 Nastrond, Without the same 3 second Grace Period the Current System Has.

    Example of Current State : 2 Eye > Geirskogul > Life of the Dragon > Nastrond > Wait 10 seconds > Nastrond > wait 10 seconds > Nastrond > wait 9 seconds > Blood of the Dragon.

    Example Of Advantages of Charge : 2 Eye > Geirskogul > Life of the Dragon = Charge +1 > Nastrond > wait 10 seconds = Charge +1> Wait 10 seconds = Charge +1 > Nastrond > Nastrond > wait 9 seconds > Blood of the Dragon > 1 second to Geirskogul.

    Example Of Existing Shared Timer with Charge : 2 Eye > Geirskogul > Life of the Dragon = Charge +1 > Nastrond > wait 10 seconds = Charge +1> Wait 10 seconds = Charge +1 > Nastrond > wait 3 seconds > Nastrond > wait 6 seconds > Blood of the Dragon > 4 second to Geirskogul.


    There would be no difference in potency besides being able to align burst windows with more flexibility.

    The reason why Geirskogul Resets is because you wait 9 seconds, If you use Nastrod late or miss it somehow it resets at a higher duration depending on the cooldown percentage of Nastrond.

    90% of 10 seconds is 1 second, 80% 2, 70% 3....ETC. This is actually a thing in game. Test it if you haven't noticed.
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    Last edited by Renkei; 09-22-2020 at 05:20 PM. Reason: Fixed GCD to CD