Dragonspine, am I doing it wrong?

[Angelhearth]

I seem to get about 7-8 of them per hour. Using Patience II all the time, using a macro (see below). I mostly get Ogre Horn Snail, and the occasional Cherry Trout (even if using Precision Hook, but 95% of them get away). I fish at and around 9/10 in Coerthas Western Highlands. Bait is Signature Skyball.


/ac Cast <wait.13>
/ac "Precision Hookset"
/ac Hook

EDIT:
Gathering: 2100, Perception: 1798, GP: Way up in the 800's

[SnowVix]

I'm not 100% sure but your stats look low. More gathering would probably help

[Brightamethyst]

7-8 an hour seems really low. IIRC I caught all 60 in just a couple of hours. Maybe the issue is your macro? That's a lot of time and GP wasted reeling in everything, even ones you know are wrong.

[Angelhearth]

I'm not 100% sure but your stats look low. More gathering would probably help

My stats look low? With all Aesthete's and all overmelded with 5 materias?

[Angelhearth]

7-8 an hour seems really low. IIRC I caught all 60 in just a couple of hours. Maybe the issue is your macro? That's a lot of time and GP wasted reeling in everything, even ones you know are wrong.

I tried it with 20 seconds, but it didn't help much. Maybe 20% bite after 13 seconds, and the extra casts you get in, with Patience II, should more than make up for it.

[Liam_Harper]

Are you using Identical Cast?

The macro is interesting, are they actually all 13 sec bites? Seemed to remember it as more like 12-15 but could be wrong if you're not getting any misses.

[Brightamethyst]

I'm betting it's the macro and at 13 seconds you're just plain missing a lot of bites. And I also second using Identical Cast if you have the GP to spare. It helps a lot.

[Kirika-]

13 seconds is too low.
The catch window opens at a bit under 20 seconds and closes at 25 seconds.

This is the timer macro I used, I still had to manually catch the fish with Precision Hookset, mainly due to a fixed timer on activating Precision is useless due to the bite can happen in a 5-ish+ second range.
It was mainly a way to display on screen when the window would open and when it had passed, which the Hook action would activate as to not to waste the bait nor GP. Basically, when the countdown got around the 5 second mark and lower, any one ! bite was likely a Dragonspine.
With this timer, for each 2 minute window of Patience2, I would almost always get 4 Dragonspine (on a successful catch activate Identical Cast) and occasionally 5
This is not without downtime and lotsa High Cordial, the downtime being waiting on GP to max out and Cordials going off cool down.

/ac "Cast"
/wait 1
/countdown 22
/wait 24
/ac "Hook"

Wait for GP to be 100% full, use Pacience2, chug a High Cordial, then click the timer and be ready on Precision Hookset while watching what ! you got in the correct time frame.... any non one !, let the timer run out.
This way you will have enough GP for two Identical Cast attempts and more than enough for Precision Hookset for each.

Early theorycrafting had assumed the coral shared the same bite timer as the spines, they do not.
The coral works around the times you used in your macro.

[Angelhearth]

13 seconds is too low.
The catch window opens at a bit under 20 seconds and closes at 25 seconds.

This is the timer macro I used, I still had to manually catch the fish with Precision Hookset, mainly due to a fixed timer on activating Precision is useless due to the bite can happen in a 5-ish+ second range.
It was mainly a way to display on screen when the window would open and when it had passed, which the Hook action would activate as to not to waste the bait nor GP. Basically, when the countdown got around the 5 second mark and lower, any one ! bite was likely a Dragonspine.
With this timer, for each 2 minute window of Patience2, I would almost always get 4 Dragonspine (on a successful catch activate Identical Cast) and occasionally 5
This is not without downtime and lotsa High Cordial, the downtime being waiting on GP to max out and Cordials going off cool down.

/ac "Cast"
/wait 1
/countdown 22
/wait 24
/ac "Hook"

Wait for GP to be 100% full, use Pacience2, chug a High Cordial, then click the timer and be ready on Precision Hookset while watching what ! you got in the correct time frame.... any non one !, let the timer run out.
This way you will have enough GP for two Identical Cast attempts and more than enough for Precision Hookset for each.

Early theorycrafting had assumed the coral shared the same bite timer as the spines, they do not.
The coral works around the times you used in your macro.

I would rewrite that macro to the following

/ac Cast <wait.25>
/ac Precision Hookset
/ac Hook

I don't think Countdown has any effect on fishing, or does it? Use Precision Hookset to make sure that last second bite isn't wasted on Hook. And if Precision Hookset can't be used, Hook will reel in.

They start biting as early as around 6-7 seconds. Most bite before 13 seconds, as far as I've found. Using 13 seconds should in theory get you more of them, since you can use Patience more of the time. I'll give yours a try next time I have an hour to spend on this annoying "quest".

[Angelhearth]

I'm betting it's the macro and at 13 seconds you're just plain missing a lot of bites. And I also second using Identical Cast if you have the GP to spare. It helps a lot.

I commented on the 13 seconds earlier.