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    1) They aren't on the roulette, nor should they be on the roulette, because it's basically savage level content; it was the "endgame" level raid back in 2.x

    2) It's impossible to run this content anymore as "originally intended" anyway. Even if you manage to get a minimum ilvl group going (one that's actually good enough to clear the fight, for that matter) the fights are still going to be way different (and overall easier) from when 2.x was current simply due to the multitude of job adjustments that have taken place since, most of which are for the better overall if I'm not mistaken.

    3) I can also tell you that even if these ended up in the raid roulette, many people would just bail when they come up, similar to what they already do with many of the harder extreme trials.
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    Johanna Yevon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fynlar View Post
    It's impossible to run this content anymore as "originally intended"
    What I mean by this, is playing it Synced to what...ilv130?
    And not playing it unsynced with lv400-500 gear.
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    Baradaeg Ryssbhirwyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    What I mean by this, is playing it Synced to what...ilv130?
    And not playing it unsynced with lv400-500 gear.
    If you want to experience it like it was intended you have to use at least the min. iLvl option, the level sync alone is far off from the original difficulty also some mechanics got changed when the fights went from current raid tier to publicly open due to their difficulty and complexity a PUG wont be able to handle on the fly.
    Also with all the buffs to the jobs, even on lower levels, the fight difficulty is not compareable anymore and the level sync puts you on ilvl 135 which overgears every fight not just by a slight marging but just into oblivion.
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    Maria Rubrum
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fynlar View Post
    1) They aren't on the roulette, nor should they be on the roulette, because it's basically savage level content; it was the "endgame" level raid back in 2.x

    2) It's impossible to run this content anymore as "originally intended" anyway. Even if you manage to get a minimum ilvl group going (one that's actually good enough to clear the fight, for that matter) the fights are still going to be way different (and overall easier) from when 2.x was current simply due to the multitude of job adjustments that have taken place since, most of which are for the better overall if I'm not mistaken.

    3) I can also tell you that even if these ended up in the raid roulette, many people would just bail when they come up, similar to what they already do with many of the harder extreme trials.
    ^ Pretty much all these points. If they were put into raid roulette, you'd have people insta-quitting instead of wasting 90 minutes trying to achieve the small reward raid roulette gives, because like 99% of groups would not be able to complete any turn T5 or above due to difficulty. If you truly want to run them synced for one reason or another, your best bet is to advertise on the FF14 reddit's LFG subreddit, or look for like minded people on your datacenter in big discords like the balance or the FF14 reddit discord. There are people out there that are interested in running coils synced for fun, but they're extremely rare and few & far between, compared to the immense amount of people that -would- run them, but only unsynched.

    You'll either have to put in the effort of finding them, or have to run the coils unsynched.
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    Last edited by MariaArvana; 08-23-2020 at 04:20 PM.

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