Mentors and Novice Network

[Laphael]

But don’t you see? This proves my point. I say the system is broken and it’s not a nice or helpful chat and only serves the egos of the people in there.

The answer you give me? Leave.

Leave doesn’t fix the problem, it just lets you stay in an echo chamber where you all tell yourselves how kind and helpful you are, while the people that need help leave because you really are not so.

You had a bad experience with spoiler, thats bad. I told you to report the person.

But NN is a world chat and if that bothers you so much, you CAN leave.

Sprouts do get help there all the time. The System is not broken just because you say it, thats the point.

[Canadane]

But NN is a world chat and if that bothers you so much, you CAN leave.

NN is not a world chat. It has a purpose and context. Don’t misuse it.

[Laphael]

NN is not a world chat. It has a purpose and context. Don’t misuse it.

First of all, i don´t like the chitchat in NN, as i said i´m mostly silent.

My claim that its a world chat is not my made up opinion. There was big drama few years ago on cerb, when a group of players tried to enforce the NN to be only for Questions and Help which ended with a few temporary bans because GMs said "the Novice Network is for all kind of conversation as long as it doesn´t violate the TOS".

[Wyakin]

This is the issue, it shouldn’t be for general chit chat or a world chat. It should be for assisting and teaching novices. We may actually have some players who know what they’re doing if it’s used for an actual purpose rather than zero rules

[SenorPatty]

You had a bad experience with spoiler, thats bad. I told you to report the person.

But NN is a world chat and if that bothers you so much, you CAN leave.

Sprouts do get help there all the time. The System is not broken just because you say it, thats the point.

This is the kind of response that lends credence to the belief that NN is what the mentors want it to be, not what it should be. With no overseeing leash and with a material reward attached to the system, mentors are free to do as they please. Sure, you can report the person responsible for the fracas, maybe even two. But what are you gonna do about a group who hasn't committed any infractions but will nonetheless band together to kick people they don't like? Nothing, especially if they decide to slather their kick with a report of their own, claiming you're the disruptive one?

The system works in japan because the mentorship is something they take as a collective with some degree of respect for themselves and the sprouts they interact with. Here in NA/EU, the bad apples do enough damage to see this whole thing either scrapped or reworked with mods checking in once in a while to see how it goes.