Rescue griefing

[Sasarayu]

Recently I encountered a group of people all from the same server and FC in an old 24-man I was doing as daily roulette. They kept gripping me out of the safe zones and into oneshot mechanics exactly as those mechanics went off, very deliberately as it would seem, only to ress the healer who sacrificed himself to do this. It happened several times during the instance.

This seems like a case where it would be impossible to prove the intentions of those players and I doubt it would fall within the duties or means of a moderator to confirm if people with extensive raid experience, including ultimates, did not understand ARR 24-man mechanics, just "misclicked" several times or if they were intentionally malignant.

This is the worst example of in game griefing I ever experienced in FFXIV during my four years in this game. I didn't really think it could be so easy to bully other players considering the super strict terms of service.

[Katie_Kitty]

You're telling me some healer and his friends randomly targeted you for bullying with rescue for absolutely no reason and there are no chat logs at all you could use to report them?

[Sasarayu]

You're telling me some healer and his friends randomly targeted you for bullying with rescue for absolutely no reason and there are no chat logs at all you could use to report them?

Yes but it wasn't random or without reason since those people are in the same FC and closely associated with a group of people I once raided with.

What would chat logs prove? Unless you mean the specific battle log.

[Awha]

You're telling me some healer and his friends randomly targeted you for bullying with rescue for absolutely no reason and there are no chat logs at all you could use to report them?

It happens I have been I n discord where some mates do just that and the avoid in game chat to minimize their chances of action being done by a GM.

[LittleImp]

It's definitely worth reporting.

GMs seem to have some ability to look into logged combat data, judging by their ability to track down all those folks in the wake of the Ungarmax debacle.

[Enla]

Report them. The dev's actually do take griefing in 24-mans pretty seriously.

[TitaniumVulpes]

What would chat logs prove? Unless you mean the specific battle log.

I was in Copied Factory one time with a griefing tank (e.g. scooping up the little explodies and letting them blow up on his group in Hobbes, dropping precision guided missile on people in Engles, etc), and we had a chat log full of us asking him to stop multiple times and him ignoring it or making fun of us in response, which I'm sure helped prove that what he was doing was absolutely deliberate when a bunch of us reported him afterwards.

[Katie_Kitty]

Yes but it wasn't random or without reason since those people are in the same FC and closely associated with a group of people I once raided with.

What would chat logs prove? Unless you mean the specific battle log.

Generally GMs take action based on chat logs. For example, if you get bullied by randoms you can ask in chat for them to stop and then use those logs to report them if they don't. Ideally, they would respond and say something incriminating back to you. It's kind of a silly system honestly.

[Doozer]

I was in Copied Factory one time with a griefing tank (e.g. scooping up the little explodies and letting them blow up on his group in Hobbes, dropping precision guided missile on people in Engles, etc), and we had a chat log full of us asking him to stop multiple times and him ignoring it or making fun of us in response, which I'm sure helped prove that what he was doing was absolutely deliberate when a bunch of us reported him afterwards.

Yep, and since so many of us called him out it seemed like he got multiple reports, since the GM response mentioned just that.

The chat log can be a powerful tool when it comes to reporting people for harassment or griefing. In the future, if people do that to you, ask them to stop. If they keep doing it, explain that it's griefing, etc. If there's a chance of a language barrier, use the auto-translate thing to be like "{please stop} {Rescue}" or something. Make sure they know you don't want them doing it, and if they answer "lol no" then you have proof they know they're messing with you and won't stop, so that alone would be useful in a report.

[Sasarayu]

Generally GMs take action based on chat logs. For example, if you get bullied by randoms you can ask in chat for them to stop and then use those logs to report them if they don't. Ideally, they would respond and say something incriminating back to you. It's kind of a silly system honestly.

I accidently pulled aggro on a boss in a 4-man once since 9/10 tanks just rush in and pull immediately and I didn't want to be several GCD behind and just waste more time as a result of waiting but the tank that time was actually waiting. As "payback" he then sprinted towards the next area only to suddenly halt and have me run in and get first aggro on the mobs, letting them kill me and saying "oops lag".

I didn't really feel bothered by that incident though since he wasn't an elitist player but rather an "offended casual" who probably thought I was an arrogant elitist after my aggro pull on the boss so I just didn't think about it more but I noted how easy it is to manipulate chat logs with innocent coverups. More ill willed players such as those I encountered in the 24-man would probably have known what to say and at the time I felt it best to wait since I don't trust my own temper in those situations.