Man & Machine: a MCH Thread

[Kabooa]

I get you like the current implementation, but making statements like that makes me wonder what job your playing.

Using my own words, and using them poorly at that, isn't doing you any favors. My own opinion on the current state of Machinist is pretty neutral. It's just a less punishing Stormblood.

This river blurb is interesting because it is full of objectively wrong information.

Not a single skill wasted: Warden's Paen, This is basically the equivalent of Mach's Flamethrower in breadth of use. There are very specific cases where it has use, but then so there is for Flamethrower.

Everything aligns: Man, do the other bards have words for you.

Mindlessly mashing skills: Literally Heavy(Burst) Shot. Hope you proc.

Rotation Roadmap: You can literally map out every single GCD and OGCD usage on Machinist. You cannot on Bard, primarily because its based on procs. You can, however, plan most of the important ones - Namely your Barrage Refulgent and your dot refresh Iron Jaws, and your song windows.

[Jirah]

Using my own words, and using them poorly at that, isn't doing you any favors. My own opinion on the current state of Machinist is pretty neutral. It's just a less punishing Stormblood.

This river blurb is interesting because it is full of objectively wrong information.

Not a single skill wasted: Warden's Paen, This is basically the equivalent of Mach's Flamethrower in breadth of use. There are very specific cases where it has use, but then so there is for Flamethrower.

Everything aligns: Man, do the other bards have words for you.

Mindlessly mashing skills: Literally Heavy(Burst) Shot. Hope you proc.

Rotation Roadmap: You can literally map out every single GCD and OGCD usage on Machinist. You cannot on Bard, primarily because its based on procs. You can, however, plan most of the important ones - Namely your Barrage Refulgent and your dot refresh Iron Jaws, and your song windows.

Let me focus on the facts then and remain on topic.

drawing straws at BRD support for your argument are we when the situation was for a single target boss not support which MCH doesnt hold a candle despite the moniker of "ranged support" which is defined by the role itself. Flamethrower doesnt accumulate heat nor compliments anything what so ever or enhances anything like most skills do but wasnt talking about flamethrower but it certainly is a off handed fragmented skill much like the whole job in general.

What words are those? Unless you have nothing to say about it yourself

Incredibly poor example, for one BRD isnt forced to press it over and over like Heat blast and two it adapts to each song and keeping its dots on is the bigger focus and they all at least have a link without getting to much into the kit.

also a less punishing Stormblood? they lost like 8 skills its and what they added as replacements just made the job have more buttons to press but no buttons that align with one another. which was my point overall

[Kabooa]

Let me focus on the facts then and remain on topic.

drawing straws at BRD support for your argument are we when the situation was for a single target boss not support which MCH doesnt hold a candle despite the moniker of "ranged support" which is defined by the role itself. Flamethrower doesnt accumulate heat nor compliments anything what so ever or enhances anything like most skills do but wasnt talking about flamethrower but it certainly is a off handed fragmented skill much like the whole job in general.

What words are those? Unless you have nothing to say about it yourself

Incredibly poor example, for one BRD isnt forced to press it over and over like Heat blast and two it adapts to each song and keeping its dots on is the bigger focus and they all at least have a link without getting to much into the kit.

also a less punishing Stormblood? they lost like 8 skills its and what they added as replacements just made the job have more buttons to press but no buttons that align with one another. which was my point overall

You laid no situation, you said "no wasted skills". Your lack of precision isn't my fault, nor my problem.

Bard isn't forced to press Heavy/Burst Shot? You sure you want to make that claim?

Yes, less punishing than Stormblood. You're more than welcome to to prove otherwise, but you're going to have a hard time doing that when all data shows one of the tightest performance bands belongs to the Machinist.