Thread: 6.0 Red Mage speculation

I hope they don't do much to RDM as it's pretty much perfect right now. That's my only real concern is that in trying to add to it, they're going to break it somehow.

Anyway, for a change I'd like to see, I want AoE to be more satisfying. The basic "rotation" is fine as it is but it doesn't feel like it really builds to anything. EMoulinet spam is just sort of weak feeling. Maybe some sort of AoE big meter spender that you could use instead of EMoulinet in certain situations.

Tweaks/upgrades to the standard skills/traits would be nice as well but that's pretty much expected.

An interesting idea could be some way to burn a specific mana type if you do get unbalanced (or get there intentionally) but generally maintaining balance is pretty simple as is so going to far in this direction could end up forcing the class into playing differently than it currently does. Still, it could be a satisfying change to the class if done right and if they wanted to change things up.

I agree that raw upgrades to the ver spells and jolt would be wonderful, Especially if they do some neat aesthetic effects to make it feel more red magey, aka more rose petal impact effects.

the melee combo is fine, I do however love the idea of a "Enchanted Blade" effect that causes your autos you do for a brief period to have a chunk of magic potency thrown on them while doing your melee combo skills. the question would be figuring out the optimal combination of time and potency to make it just feel like a bonus and not something you have to build your burst rotation around.

I do agree with needing an aoe combo finisher. The trigger state, however is something that needs to be figured out. Personally I like the idea that each time you cast EM you build a stack of *insert cool name here* and then once you get 3-4 stacks you'd go into a combo of Verflood (White Mana)/Verfreeze into an AoE version of scorch (call it Ardor or something? not the most appropriate name considering lore stuff but whatever I'm just reaching for names)

Originally Posted by Katie_Kitty

Well actually what happened is you completely missed that the OP is sassy snark about the devs' lack of care put into RDM, and the MP part itself was a tongue-in-cheek reference to the terrible state the job was in on ShB release.

Wdym "lack of care"? RDM was one of the most polished and intuitive jobs the game has had upon its initial release in 4.0 and the devs have only built on that further.

Originally Posted by waifugenerator

Wdym "lack of care"? RDM was one of the most polished and intuitive jobs the game has had upon its initial release in 4.0 and the devs have only built on that further.

Shadowbringers release, RDM would actually run out of MP given enough time during an encounter. Effectively killing the use of carrying a raise and making the class inherently frustrating to play.

Originally Posted by kajv95

Shadowbringers release, RDM would actually run out of MP given enough time during an encounter. Effectively killing the use of carrying a raise and making the class inherently frustrating to play.

Is this still an issue? I literally unlocked RDM tonight specifically because I was frustrated I couldn’t support anyone as Black Mage when things go sideways. (So much death in those 24 mans!!)

No, they fixed it quickly. There's always minor balancing issues like it that crop up at the start of every expansion.

That’s a relief to know, thank you guys.

Personally I'm hoping that we get some of if not all of the following

1. Verflood and Verfreeze as aoe finishers. Can either go one then the other, or one then scorch to transition to single target damage easier (verflood or verfreeze- scorch for example)
2. Verflare's sound to be changed to something that sounds like an explosion. something closer to exdeath's or voidwalkers flares
3. Scorch to have its sound changed to something other than a dull thud
4. Enchanted moulinet to get a cost and damage increase, and proc verflood/verfreeze
I'm picturing the rotation like this: verthunder 2- impact, veraero 2- impact, ench moulinet, verfreeze, verflood, back to start

5. Corps a corps and displacement to get charges

Other thoughts for spell/ability ideas that could work but not really bothered about

Scheitelhau- Parting-hew, a german sword technique designed to pierce certain guards through the principle of überlauffen, "overrunning" or "overreaching"- a sword action that burns excess black or white mana in order to get back into balance, on cd for some considerable time to prevent overuse
None of the other classes really get punished for screwing up so why do rdm? (personally I'm against the idea of most jobs being able to get off free for not playing hteir kit correctly, but this is more along the lines of SE thinking)

Verultima- A capstone achieved via two stacks of elemental balance. One stack of elemental balance is granted every time the b/w gauges get above 80. Verultima does powerful single target damage plus fixed aoe damage and grants the buff elemental harmony
Elemental harmony: gives 10% damage buff for next 5 abilities