Thread: 6.0 Red Mage speculation

Originally Posted by Rongway

On top of every other spell being instant, RDM has 10.2s of movement three times every two minutes, or about 15.1s per minute, if you can stay in melee range during the first 3.1s of each movement. This is only a problem in specific fights with specific party compositions. It's not a problem in general; it's just really annoying when you do end up in one of those fights with the wrong party.

That is completely unreliable and thats the reason I didnt even mentioned it. It depends on A: Having 80/80 mana or over in an specific moment (and you cant delay using it too much) and B: that the melee target is a "safe area". Is not like melees never have to go away or anything. Is like killing a boss with dots after most of people is dead: It is possible but not something you rely on

RDM has mobility in "theory" but only in extremely short (albeit continious) moments or longer times under a specific moment of the rotation (which you cant delay too much anyways or you mess with everything) that relies on having a target on a "safe" zone

Nothing really to add, but I will say I'm enjoying the back and forth over the last couple of pages. It has really made me think about a few things. Good stuff.

I tend to consider all the casters to be pretty similar in movement overall, but that they represent different approaches to mobility. For example, BLM feels like a turret but a skilled player of the class knows that it has a ton of options you can use for on-demand movement. Similarly, RDM seems very mobile, but its mobility is more restricted in terms of when you can/must utilize it, and that tends to produce two very different playstyles. Then you have SMN, who is almost an aberration because you don't *technically* need to even hardcast anything at all in order to perform your DPS rotation (although playing that way will definitely result in a major DPS loss, it doesn't actually interfere with your class mechanics).

Personally, I enjoy RDM's playstyle the most.

Originally Posted by Katie_Kitty

I tend to consider all the casters to be pretty similar in movement overall, but that they represent different approaches to mobility. For example, BLM feels like a turret but a skilled player of the class knows that it has a ton of options you can use for on-demand movement. Similarly, RDM seems very mobile, but its mobility is more restricted in terms of when you can/must utilize it, and that tends to produce two very different playstyles. Then you have SMN, who is almost an aberration because you don't *technically* need to even hardcast anything at all in order to perform your DPS rotation (although playing that way will definitely result in a major DPS loss, it doesn't actually interfere with your class mechanics).

Personally, I enjoy RDM's playstyle the most.

Yeah, that's my feeling as well. Granted, I don't do the harder content in the game but I find RDM's movement to feel good overall. There are moments that lock you in place, plus some abilities that require you to be in melee, and I enjoy having to use those limitations to play around the given mechanics of a fight. Complete freedom of movement is actually one of the reasons I don't really enjoy Ranged as much. It's nice to have All The Movement but sometimes the limitations are what makes it fun (and rewarding).

Originally Posted by Rongway

Please no! I abhor targetless backsteps. With Displacement I know exactly where I'll land based on my position relative to the boss, no matter what direction I'm facing. If I'm Displacing for the movement, I was probably already moving and therefore facing some direction other than directlyAtTheBoss before I pressed the Displacement button. If Displacement were targetless, I would have to stop, face target, Displace, then continue running. Removing the target requirement from Displacement increases the freedom at the cost of making it more difficult to use in the middle of a mechanic, and I don't think the difficulty of use is worth the unnecessary freedom.

I see your point... I guess is more of personal preference at that, I kind of learned how to gauge the distance based on my character's perspective and I always could see more opportunities to backflip while not at melee range.