Thread: 6.0 Red Mage speculation

Originally Posted by Daws

+ More runes cause Wanda.
+ An aoe melee combo finisher. Perhaps Moulinet triggers it and modifies the existing melee buttons (save on keybind headaches).
? What if RDM had a dot? Make rotation more interesting? A chore? Meh?
? On the unbalanced benefit thing...what if RDMs got a new cd whose effect changed based on your higher mana type. Doesn't work if in balance.

No DoTs, please. One of the reasons I like RDM is because it's one of the classes that doesn't involve baby sitting DoTs. And if there's no "baby sitting" involved, if there's no additional wrinkle to the gameplay because of it, and it's just baked into part of the regular rotation then it doesn't really add or change anything.

I'm not sure what to do about the unbalanced mana benefit myself. On one hand, I can understand wanting some sort of fun tool to make use of or even just correct a mana imbalance. But on the other hand, intentionally choosing to throw your mana out of balance feels like it runs counter to the whole design of the job in the first place. If you need to, say, imbalance white mana to access some sort of powerful ability as part of the intended play of the job it would just feel wrong. But if it's just an additional tool to help balance out your mana if you get too far ahead it might feel inconsequential and overly situational. Like "Hey, I got this cool new skill! ... that I never see because it's too situational to use 99% of the time!" That was one of the biggest issues that led to Monk not feeling great to play. The best I could see for this is to just have some sort of balancing effect added to an ability we already have.

One thing that could be interesting is to have our raise and cure impact our Mana balance in some way. I'm not sure how it would work exactly but it's always felt a little off that we can do what some would consider the most powerful thing in the game, chain rez, and yet it doesn't impact our accumulation of mana at all. More of a lore bit than a gameplay bit, but it feels weird.

Originally Posted by Grimoire-M

To be fair there is a good argument for DoTs on Red Mage. Each tick could also generate Mana over time.

I dislike the idea of adding a DoT and I dislike it even more if we add mana per tick to it. We're already doing quick +9s and +11s in our heads per cast. I loathe the idea of also having to take into account "this three tick DoT will give me +9 but I won't see the whole +9 until 9 seconds from the time I cast it, so when I cast a spell three seconds from now I have to remember there are still 6 mana coming and then when I cast the next spell after that there might still be 3 mana incoming". Or, "if I have to clip this longer DoT, how much mana am I actually going to end up with?"

Not necessarily a gameplay change but I would like to see the inclusion of water/ice spells to their kits seeing as they use the elements from white and black mage. I’d like those to be included visually.

An ability that lets you use enchanted weaponskills without needing or expending mana.

Originally Posted by NobleWinter

RDM is really fun right now and I would love to see it stay mostly the same. On my wishlist for new skills in Endwalker is upgrades to both Acceleration and Embolden thru traits. Acceleration could function like Ninja Kassatsu increasing the potency of our spells and changing them into more powerful versions. We would use it the same way but get more damage and flashy animations to punctuate our rotation without adding buttons.

I would love to see Embolden get extended to a 25 second duration with damage drop off every 5 seconds and two additional effects:
-Reduce the mana cost of Enchanted weapon skills by half. (Allowing us to do the melee combo twice in a row before running dry.)
-Guarantee that Ver Holy and Ver Flare always have 100% proc rates for Ver Stone and Ver Fire

The idea with this would be that Embolden would allow us to use both VerHoly and Verflare in succession to gain both the procs with a new skill that replaces Scorch when both procs are present. Lets call it Scorch 2 since Im lame on 120 second cooldown just like Embolden. So the melee combo stays the same and mana generation rate too but we get to do a longer combo with a new more powerful Scorch and no extra buttons.

I would like Enchanted Moulinete to consume all Mana when used so we stop spamming it and get a bigger animation when our mana bar is completely full. Something flashy that lingers and feels impactful cause it loses it's bite when you see it used repeatedly.

Everything else I want has been mentioned already.

5.55 minor-spoiler:

In the MSQ from 5.55 Alisaie (when controllable) uses something really cool that looks like an upgraded E. Moulinet! I hope we can see it.

Other than it, I agree with your points on Acceleration as well.

I still would love Enchanted Reprise to eat just your highest mana. I know it would probably mean nothing to the crem-de-la-creme of RDMs but it can be a great way to fix mana imbalances when they happen.