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    Please add trigger warnings to intense moments in the MSQ

    Trigger warning: Horror/Dark scenes ahead

    As someone diagnosed with anxiety, I get easily stressed out when I watch intense scenes in the MSQ. It's not so bad most of the time but there are several moments I felt panic and my heart rate shot up. We're seeing more games implement accessibility options, including FF14. I welcome the thoughtful options that are implemented for low vision and colorblind players for this game and being able to play this game on KB/M or a controller also gives players with motor diseases more options. These are good things. However, the gaming industry has so far neglected invisible disabilities like anxiety or neuroatypical syndromes like ADHD. With so many games starting to look at accessibility seriously maybe we can encourage these companies to go one step further and also implement some easy yet positive changes for individuals with invisible disabilities, like mine. As someone with anxiety, Trusts have been so important for me as an individual. It allows me to enjoy the game and learn a dungeon by myself without pressure from others. I'm not antisocial - I just get anxious when I'm doing content for the first time because I'm worried about being judged. I hope we can do that for trials too soon. On the other hand, there are moments in the MSQ where my anxiety flares up because of intense scenes. It shouldn't be difficult to add some sort of trigger warning before these scenes, much like how there are warnings for players to set aside enough time to play through long scenes right now.

    These are some of the examples of the different types of moments/cutscenes in the MSQ that should be preceded with a trigger warning in my opinion (spoilers below):

    At around Lv 73 there was a scene where Titania suddenly jump scares you. I get that they are mimicking horror games, but I had to stop playing for an hour to get my heart rate under control. I was not expecting that scene at all because FF14 has never had any horror scenes like these. Honestly I'll be fine if these scenes just got deleted and the MSQ writers never make scenes like these again. But if not at least add a trigger warning before them.
    • Edda

    The whole Edda storyline was very disturbing and the final boss of Tam-Tara hard mode was too scary for me and I had to actively tell myself this isn't real to finish that dungeon. To this day I still don't do the Lv50/60/70 roulette because I'm afraid of getting that dungeon. There is a disturbing horror movie vibe in that dungeon and players should be warned about that. Also, I don't mind if this scene was deleted:


    • Ala Mhigo racism/imperialism/torture scenes

    There are a lot of scenes throughout the Stormblood MSQ where you witness Garlemald or Garlean sympathizers basically torturing or committing war crimes on Ala Mhigans. There was a scene where one of the Ala Mhigans begged you not to intervene and to me that was very traumatic and I was not prepared for this dark theme at all and almost broke down. I think a warning that the Stormblood MSQ contains a lot of dark and heavy themes related to war will be nice, because I was expecting a lighter tone and mood.
    • Haurchefant death scene

    I was completely unprepared for this scene and I had to stop playing for a week because it was just so sudden and I was so distraught I felt like I lost a friend in real life. I had to spend a week griefing and I didn't think a video game would hit me this hard but it did. Warning that the scene might be upsetting for some people would be nice.

    These are just some examples that I think benefit from having a trigger warning added to them. I'm sure there are more but let's start small and add trigger warnings to the most upsetting scenes first.
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    Those Edda horror moments were honestly probably my favorite cutscenes in the whole game.

    I'm sorry it upset you though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tranquilmelody7 View Post
    Those Edda horror moments were honestly probably my favorite cutscenes in the whole game.

    I'm sorry it upset you though.
    Thank you. I think it's fine if those storylines stayed in the game but some warning for them would be nice. Had I known Tam Tara HM was basically a horror movie trope I would have probably stayed away from it.
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    You know there is a "warning" right? Called PEGI and seriously i think you (or your parents) are adults enough to know what that is...at least i hope so.

    "This game has received a PEGI 16 because it features sustained depictions of violence towards human characters, moderate violence and encouragement of the use of alcohol/tobacco. Not appropriate for persons below 16 years of age."

    I think and i hope that is clear enough and if you can't handle these things then don't play the game. Do we need now a trigger warning for every horror game because people can't read? (Or any game in general) If you don't like it don't play, don't go into a horror movie if you can't stand it and don't eat peanuts if you have allergies, it is seriously not that hard.
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    The game already has an ESRB rating

    Teen

    Alcohol Reference
    Animated Blood
    Language
    Suggestive Themes
    Violence

    The game also lets you skip cutscenes.
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    The game has an ESRB and PEGI ratings. That should be enough. It would detrimental and spoil the user experience for the other 98% of people if there was a warning before every scene that said the following scenes could be disturbing. Ffxiv has some mature themes like death, torture, and discrimination. This might not be the right game for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranaku View Post
    You know there is a "warning" right? Called PEGI and seriously i think you (or your parents) are adults enough to know what that is...at least i hope so.

    "This game has received a PEGI 16 because it features sustained depictions of violence towards human characters, moderate violence and encouragement of the use of alcohol/tobacco. Not appropriate for persons below 16 years of age."
    Given that OP is on Malboro, it's likely they're in NA, in which case you'd want to cite the ESRB instead. I went looking on the ESRB site itself and found an interesting chunk of text that's quite detailed, and I wish it actually said this in full whenever the rating was shown:

    This is a massively multiplayer online role-playing game (MMORPG) in which players navigate a large cast of characters that engage in missions and fight the forces of evil. Players explore environments (e.g., cities, plains, caves) and battle human and fantasy creatures. Players use swords, spears, axes, firearms, and magic spells (e.g., fire balls, energy beams) to defeat enemies in real-time combat. Cutscenes depict a man being stabbed from behind, and creatures emitting splashes of purple or yellow blood when struck. Some female characters are depicted from low camera angles, with lingering camera views of their buttocks (i.e., up-skirt shots). Dialogue contains suggestive references; for example, "The netmaster's probably up in his office polishing the mast just thinking about her," "stick yer manhood in the forge," and "You cheating little whore!" Several characters are referred to as drunk or drunken, while others sometimes talk about wine, rum, and grog. The word "sh*t" can be heard in the dialogue.
    Instead we usually just get basic stuff like

    Alcohol Reference
    Animated Blood
    Language
    Suggestive Themes
    Violence
    Anyway, I'm pretty neutral on the subject, since although ratings give you a general idea of what you're going to get, sometimes there's really specific circumstances that are unusual for the game and can take people by surprise, like Edda/Tam-tara Hard.
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    The thing with hauchefaunt's death... I'm sorry, but if there was any kind of warning about it it would ruin the entire impact of that cutscene. For a lot of players that put the final nail in the coffin for the "son of a gun must pay" mentality. Also it's a war, so it kinda goes without saying that there may or may not be more graphic moments.

    The Edda storyline is one that is meant to be unsettling. Frankly, I find it odd you found that disturbing and not all the voidsent type of interactions like Haukke manor or the cannibalism in dusk virgil. Hell I find the toto-rak dungeon scarier than Tam-tara hard because arachnophobia.

    I liked the Titania jump scare personally. As someone who enjoys a touch of the creepy, spooky, and even unsettling here and there I thought it was a nice contrast to the general playful and innocent nature of ill-mheg. Jump scares are meant to be what they are. If anything they'd just have to re-do the entire scene.

    Lastly I'm sorry, but you expected a revoloution to be more light and easy going? The Ala Mhigans were the first nation to fall to the empire in Eorzea and like, any reputable evil villainy, made sure to snuff out any and all hope and dreams that they ever found.

    I'm sorry you have issues with anxiety and such though, but there's things in this game that have more graphic things that is obvious by the plot line and other thematic elements.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilitaryVet123 View Post
    Trigger warning: Horror/Dark scenes ahead



    These are just some examples that I think benefit from having a trigger warning added to them. I'm sure there are more but let's start small and add trigger warnings to the most upsetting scenes first.
    I'm sorry these scenes upset you. I understand that with your anxiety these things can be triggers, unfortunately this game has to appeal to everyone and they make sure the ratings are clear on what is depicted.
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    Guys, there's no harm is asking for greater accessibility options and filters.
    Saying "the game has a rating" while true, isn't verry helpful. What is TC supposed to do? Just not play the game?

    It could be a opt in option, so that those who don't want it never have to see it.
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