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    Augmented Scaevan gear: the true villain of Shadowbringers

    Please delete this post. Thank you.
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    Last edited by foyboy; 08-04-2024 at 08:48 PM.

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    Ugh who cares!! You can clear any content with AUGMENTED SCAEVAN gear that's the whole point!! Why else would they put that gear in the game? LOL
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    Last edited by RagingStallion; 08-21-2020 at 05:43 PM.

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    JohnSpawnVFX's Avatar
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    Kaynneth Menad
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    I wonder what they were thinking by enforcing min ilvl of lvl 73 gear on a lvl 79 dungeon, when the MSQ (and sidequests) have already given players lvl 74/76/78 gear at that time...
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    Ulala Ula
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    Yes you could clear everything till hades with 380, but you gotta be good for that, it would take a lot longer and would be no fun... the problem is while its not that much on ilvl there is a lot of mainstat and def missing... imo the restrictions need to be a lot higher. Like omg poor thing gotta farm a dungeon 2-3x Q_Q

    For a game forcing us to replace all our gear every other patch that old problem really is annoying...
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    Ven Diclonius
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    Let me put it this way.

    Augmented Scavean Gear is like...i think something around the ball park of 10 less ilvls than what is possible to obtain at lvl 79. 10 ilvls is barely anything.

    Secondly, the new expert dungeons dont require you to be at ilvl cap for that patch, further proven by the fact that they drop gear that is utterly irrelevant to most people.

    Augmented Scavean is more than suitable to be used all the way until lvl 79, though i will admit it does start to get much weaker in mt gulg but Augmented gear is actually BETTER than dungeon/HQ crafted gear before mt gulg so really...that gear is fine. I've done the biggest possible pulls in that gear, with healers and tanks in that gear, with dps in that gear. The first time i went through the expansion story last july i used augmented scavean/omega gear all the way up until i hit 80, because it was simply just adequette for everything and in many cases actually better.


    If someone uses something LOWER than augmented scavean though? Then yea we have a problem, but honestly, it could be worse.
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    2.0 Veteran from 2013. Just looking to be helpful. DRK is Love, DRK is life.

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    You realise the augmented scaeven gear doesn't get outclassed stat wise until qitana ravel dungeon gear, so anything before that is fair game, and even then its only a tiny difference between qitana and aug scaeven. Adjusting gulg item level seems like a much better solution, because nothing even hits hard in the Melikahs Well so you could get through that no problem, and again the actual stat difference between aug scav and melikahs well is low enough that any stat deficiencies can be accomodated with player skill. I've done these dungeons in min ilvl parties and you can still double pull and finish the dungeon in good time, this is not a issue with gear its an issue with people being bad.
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    Pomelo Elmbrook
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    Not gonna lie, on my alt jobs I am SO guilty of joining in terribad gear. I do my beastmans (which can basically be completed naked) and I do all roulettes, sadly I sometimes get chucked into a SHB dungeon. I only tend to gear up with the 100% guaranteed dungeon drops or at lvl 80 with any spare tomes.
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    Fynlar Eira
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    Oh look, it's like the Castrum Abania thread all over again.

    You see people using this abysmal garbage gear all throughout shadowbringers, and despite the fact that everyone wearing it does 0 damage, has 0 health and dies if an enemy breathes on them wrong,
    Except the previous thread didn't need exaggerations of this magnitude to try to get its (still incorrect) point across.

    Nice job posting this on a sock account too, slick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fynlar View Post
    Oh look, it's like the Castrum Abania thread all over again.

    Except the previous thread didn't need exaggerations of this magnitude to try to get its (still incorrect) point across.

    Nice job posting this on a sock account too, slick.
    I'm sure SE intended for players to play "how low can you go?", when they introduced/tightened min ilvl for duties not long ago.

    It's only incorrect, if you're running duties preformed with very pacient and capable friends. I'm sure everyone and their grandma have a pocket Savage tier healer. :^)

    Nice of you to think you won that thread, when you merely covered your ears and ran tail between legs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VenKitsune View Post
    If someone uses something LOWER than augmented scavean though? Then yea we have a problem, but honestly, it could be worse.
    I tanked everything until 80 in a mix of Augmented Scaevan, Omega and Elemental +1 gear which is "technically" lower than Augmented Scaevan gear, never had an issue. Augmented Scaevan is completely fine, what you need to look out for is unaugmented Scaevan, no melds and a ring from Ghymlit Dark, because that's the sign of a boosted job and way more likely to not know what they're doing.
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