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  1. #21
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    SavishSalacious's Avatar
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    Alex Mathethious
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    Quote Originally Posted by AwesomeJr44 View Post
    I've seen a lot of people say that getting the skills one at a time makes a big difference in a player's ability to play a job, is that true? I'm not the type of person who would blindly run into multiplayer content with the boosted job before practicing on dummies and watching a guide of two, but is the experience of leveling manually worth the terribly long grind? Should I suck it up and level it up myself or is the potion a viable option?
    So I can only speak for me as a bard:

    1. Yes one skill at a time does teach you each skill as you learn to build your rotation off those. One could argue: read the tool tip stupid. But that doesn't give you the x levels of practice with it before the next unlock.

    2. Yes. For more complicated classes with harder rotations (I still don't know what OGCD means, I know something global cool down) so it makes sense to do the endless grind. Because you want the practice. As you stated, both of these points are irrelevant with YouTube and dummies, but until you are in a situation where you need to know that skill, and when to use it, all these guides do is tell you "press this, that and that over there" with out the explicit why behind it.

    For example I leveled my main a BLM, from start to finish and I learned each and every skill and when to use them and when not to, some by this community screaming at me, some by trial and error. Took me 6 dungeons to know how to use enochian right and keep it up to trigger other spells. I struggle on my bard, but slowly I am learning.

    3. If this was an alt character which it sounds like it, you have already done the story. So you do you. But if you want to know how to really, and I don't mean YouTube, Reddit, guides, play your character then do it hard way, the reward for the hard work is well worth it over the instant gratification of "I got this, I watched the guides".

    Again my opinion, do as you please. It's you're money.
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  2. #22
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    Edax Royeaux
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    Quote Originally Posted by AwesomeJr44 View Post
    Please take the time to read everything before blindly replying with 'It's not good for bad players, most players are bad, you're likely to be a bad player, its not worth it'. I see people do this a lot in other threads I've looked at, and its not helpful if you don't provide relevant reasoning to support your answer.

    I've been wanting to play Machinist as it looks like a really fun job to play, and I've been trying to level it up. I've grinded dungeons to get it up to level 51, but the constant 20 min+ DPS queue times have been pretty discouraging, so I've been considering buying a level skip for Machinist, especially considering that its currently on a discounted price.

    While I haven't played high level Machinist before, I have a good enough grasp on the game's core mechanics that I've done fine on lv 70 dungeons like Ala Mhigo, and have RDM, AST, and GNB all higher than lv 70. (My account here shows an alt character for some reason, so don't look there for proof XD)

    I've seen a lot of people say that getting the skills one at a time makes a big difference in a player's ability to play a job, is that true? I'm not the type of person who would blindly run into multiplayer content with the boosted job before practicing on dummies and watching a guide of two, but is the experience of leveling manually worth the terribly long grind? Should I suck it up and level it up myself or is the potion a viable option?
    Paying money to not play the game seems counterintuitive.
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  3. #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edax View Post
    Paying money to not play the game seems counterintuitive.
    Consider the cost of a jump potion. Now consider the cost of a sub. You could spend two months worth of playtime and quit, or spend that same amount while SE gets more of said money if you remained subbed. You could also remained subbed, level the job, and hate it, but there's still a profit to be made.

    The financial department has likely meticulously worked this out, it's fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iVolke View Post
    This is probably the easiest forum to bait.

    y'all are kinda dumb tbh

  4. #24
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    Khloe Stardew
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    Quote Originally Posted by AwesomeJr44 View Post
    Please take the time to read everything before blindly replying with 'It's not good for bad players, most players are bad, you're likely to be a bad player, its not worth it'. I see people do this a lot in other threads I've looked at, and its not helpful if you don't provide relevant reasoning to support your answer.

    I've been wanting to play Machinist as it looks like a really fun job to play, and I've been trying to level it up. I've grinded dungeons to get it up to level 51, but the constant 20 min+ DPS queue times have been pretty discouraging, so I've been considering buying a level skip for Machinist, especially considering that its currently on a discounted price.

    While I haven't played high level Machinist before, I have a good enough grasp on the game's core mechanics that I've done fine on lv 70 dungeons like Ala Mhigo, and have RDM, AST, and GNB all higher than lv 70. (My account here shows an alt character for some reason, so don't look there for proof XD)

    I've seen a lot of people say that getting the skills one at a time makes a big difference in a player's ability to play a job, is that true? I'm not the type of person who would blindly run into multiplayer content with the boosted job before practicing on dummies and watching a guide of two, but is the experience of leveling manually worth the terribly long grind? Should I suck it up and level it up myself or is the potion a viable option?
    Personally, I don't think it is worth it if you are that for into leveling. But its your decision.

    I would say yes if you have a good strong grasp/understanding of your skills do and what your rotation will be already. What i mean is, that you did your research and know what to do. Too many times I seen level skips come into a level 70 and 80 dungeons and are completely clueless on what they need to do rotation wise.this goes for Tanks, DPS, and healers. So you will want to get your hot or cross bars setup and wail on a dummy if you are not good or simply don't know/understand your rotation.
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  5. #25
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    Edax Royeaux
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gula View Post
    Consider the cost of a jump potion. Now consider the cost of a sub. You could spend two months worth of playtime and quit, or spend that same amount while SE gets more of said money if you remained subbed. You could also remained subbed, level the job, and hate it, but there's still a profit to be made.

    The financial department has likely meticulously worked this out, it's fine.
    If you hate it, maybe the game isn't worth your money to begin with.
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  6. #26
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    Derio Uzumaki
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    Not if you already started leveling it. If you were going fresh out the gate from 1 to 70 then yes. But if you already leveled it to 51 then its a bit of a waste because at that point you might as well just run POTD
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    I think it's a personal choice to be honest with you, u can't go wrong either way.

    Some learn better by by the lvl'n process getting one skill at a time, some however can learn just fine with all those skills laid out in front of them, either way if your willing to learn then it doesn't matter if u skip or lvl traditionally.

    Judging by your post u seem willing to learn so if I were u I'd buy the boost potion because either way you seem like a person who's willing to take the time to learn, plus the dps que times u complained about have got u to the point were u strated a thread about it so I'd do it.

    I bought one for my alt, but I already knew how to play the job I boosted, but if think about it anytime we get a new job it's like thier boosted cause we get all those skills at once and learn em.
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  8. #28
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    Absenthine Starfrost
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    Faerie
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    For your first job, no imo. However, for any job you may be interested in but don't want to deal with grinding it, I don't see the issue with it. I personally used a jump potion on astro (back when it was Stormblood and it jumped you to 60). I would also consider a jump potion on a class you have NO interest in if you want to experience RDM/SAM/GNB/Dancer as early as possible. (My other half did this with Paladin to get Gunbreaker early and he doesn't regret it).
    If you do jump a job, just remember to take time and learn a rotation or do some things solo to learn it.
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  9. #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edax View Post
    If you hate it, maybe the game isn't worth your money to begin with.
    I am talking about job skips. And you're waaay too quick to be dismissive.

    I hate SAM, and I hate PLD. Am I gonna quit the whole darn game just because I don't like to play 2 jobs out of... what are we even at, 16??
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    Quote Originally Posted by iVolke View Post
    This is probably the easiest forum to bait.

    y'all are kinda dumb tbh

  10. #30
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gula View Post
    I am talking about job skips. And you're waaay too quick to be dismissive.

    I hate SAM, and I hate PLD. Am I gonna quit the whole darn game just because I don't like to play 2 jobs out of... what are we even at, 16??
    So you don't like SAM and PLD...so why are you paying more money then? It's counterintuitive to pay money for things you don't like.
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