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    Quote Originally Posted by AwesomeJr44 View Post
    Please take the time to read everything before blindly replying with 'It's not good for bad players, most players are bad, you're likely to be a bad player, its not worth it'. I see people do this a lot in other threads I've looked at, and its not helpful if you don't provide relevant reasoning to support your answer.

    I've been wanting to play Machinist as it looks like a really fun job to play, and I've been trying to level it up. I've grinded dungeons to get it up to level 51, but the constant 20 min+ DPS queue times have been pretty discouraging, so I've been considering buying a level skip for Machinist, especially considering that its currently on a discounted price.

    While I haven't played high level Machinist before, I have a good enough grasp on the game's core mechanics that I've done fine on lv 70 dungeons like Ala Mhigo, and have RDM, AST, and GNB all higher than lv 70. (My account here shows an alt character for some reason, so don't look there for proof XD)

    I've seen a lot of people say that getting the skills one at a time makes a big difference in a player's ability to play a job, is that true? I'm not the type of person who would blindly run into multiplayer content with the boosted job before practicing on dummies and watching a guide of two, but is the experience of leveling manually worth the terribly long grind? Should I suck it up and level it up myself or is the potion a viable option?
    Paying money to not play the game seems counterintuitive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edax View Post
    Paying money to not play the game seems counterintuitive.
    Consider the cost of a jump potion. Now consider the cost of a sub. You could spend two months worth of playtime and quit, or spend that same amount while SE gets more of said money if you remained subbed. You could also remained subbed, level the job, and hate it, but there's still a profit to be made.

    The financial department has likely meticulously worked this out, it's fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iVolke View Post
    This is probably the easiest forum to bait.

    y'all are kinda dumb tbh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gula View Post
    Consider the cost of a jump potion. Now consider the cost of a sub. You could spend two months worth of playtime and quit, or spend that same amount while SE gets more of said money if you remained subbed. You could also remained subbed, level the job, and hate it, but there's still a profit to be made.

    The financial department has likely meticulously worked this out, it's fine.
    If you hate it, maybe the game isn't worth your money to begin with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edax View Post
    If you hate it, maybe the game isn't worth your money to begin with.
    I am talking about job skips. And you're waaay too quick to be dismissive.

    I hate SAM, and I hate PLD. Am I gonna quit the whole darn game just because I don't like to play 2 jobs out of... what are we even at, 16??
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    Quote Originally Posted by iVolke View Post
    This is probably the easiest forum to bait.

    y'all are kinda dumb tbh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gula View Post
    I am talking about job skips. And you're waaay too quick to be dismissive.

    I hate SAM, and I hate PLD. Am I gonna quit the whole darn game just because I don't like to play 2 jobs out of... what are we even at, 16??
    So you don't like SAM and PLD...so why are you paying more money then? It's counterintuitive to pay money for things you don't like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edax View Post
    So you don't like SAM and PLD...so why are you paying more money then? It's counterintuitive to pay money for things you don't like.
    You have taken my post entirely out of context to be extra defensive.

    Good. Job.

    Who says I paid for a jump skip for those jobs in the first place?
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    Quote Originally Posted by iVolke View Post
    This is probably the easiest forum to bait.

    y'all are kinda dumb tbh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gula View Post
    I am talking about job skips. And you're waaay too quick to be dismissive.

    I hate SAM, and I hate PLD. Am I gonna quit the whole darn game just because I don't like to play 2 jobs out of... what are we even at, 16??
    Quote Originally Posted by Gula View Post
    You have taken my post entirely out of context to be extra defensive.

    Good. Job.

    Who says I paid for a jump skip for those jobs in the first place?
    Then I don't know what your context is. You hate SAM and PLD. Whatever this means I don't know. I would advise you to not spend money on what you hate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edax View Post
    If you hate it, maybe the game isn't worth your money to begin with.
    Or you know, people play this game for different reasons and enjoy different aspects of the game. I myself hardly ever go into dungeons, i will if someone in fc needs to run something, but outside of that you will hardly find me in them.

    I use hunt trains to get my tomes for the week. I have more fun in the ex trials and savage and crafting/gathering. Should i quit the game because i dont find the leveling part fun, and much rather jump a job i want to try out in endgame conntent? Also some jobs are just dreadful to level up, but seem fun at max levels. To some of us it is worth it to jump a job up so we can use it in end game with friends instead of slogging through all the levels, should we quit the game?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delis View Post
    Or you know, people play this game for different reasons and enjoy different aspects of the game. I myself hardly ever go into dungeons, i will if someone in fc needs to run something, but outside of that you will hardly find me in them.

    I use hunt trains to get my tomes for the week. I have more fun in the ex trials and savage and crafting/gathering. Should i quit the game because i dont find the leveling part fun, and much rather jump a job i want to try out in endgame conntent? Also some jobs are just dreadful to level up, but seem fun at max levels. To some of us it is worth it to jump a job up so we can use it in end game with friends instead of slogging through all the levels, should we quit the game?
    But would you pay extra for the pleasure to not do dungeons? Would you pay extra to not do hunts? Would you pay extra to not talk to your FC? Would you pay extra to not have a house? How much are you willing to pay to not play the game?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edax View Post
    But would you pay extra for the pleasure to not do dungeons? Would you pay extra to not do hunts? Would you pay extra to not talk to your FC? Would you pay extra to not have a house? How much are you willing to pay to not play the game?
    Paying extra to not have to do dungeons, sure. The rest no, but I am sure someone would, and that's the thing it is a personal choice. Just because someone doesn't enjoy a certain aspect of the game asnd instead choses to use an option to circumvent that part of the game, an option that SE is giving them, doesn't mean they should quit the game.

    Also those examples you listed aren't good examples because you already (with the exception of dungeons) have the option not to do them. Don't like hunts?, just don't do them, don't want to talk to your fc?don't join one or just don't chat in fc chat. Don't want a house? Just don't buy one. But with leveling a job you do have to do it or pay extra to skip that part.
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