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    Edax Royeaux
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    Quote Originally Posted by AwesomeJr44 View Post
    RPG =/= MMO RPG, which I've provided enough examples of the differences to prove that point already. I'll also remind you of the point I made about needing to grind to max level in an MMO rather than average level in a normal RPG, which means the grinding is much worse in an MMO.
    You don't experience endgame content in an normal MMO at average level. Investing more money to the game to not play it can be considered a waste because it's based upon the idea that the game was unenjoyable and thus of poor quality.

    Quote Originally Posted by AwesomeJr44 View Post
    There's no problem with this, but progression doesn't end at level 20 either. The same applies to every level in the game INCLUDING level 80.
    I didn't imply otherwise about level 20...?

    Quote Originally Posted by AwesomeJr44 View Post
    This is your decision and if you don't want to stick with FFXIV long-term, that's up to you.
    I do wish to stick to FFXIV long-term. With expansions, there will be more content for me to consume for years ahead. I'm in no rush nor am I monogamous to FFXIV.

    Quote Originally Posted by AwesomeJr44 View Post
    However, that isn't typical of the majority of MMO players outside of the most absolute casual of players. MMOs are meant to be played over a long period of time with leveling only being a portion of that. Don't treat your mentality as the norm because it isn't.
    Leveling is an important part of an MMO.

    Quote Originally Posted by AwesomeJr44 View Post
    The process of leveling isn't flawed, just unenjoyable. It's supposed to be a grind so SE can get you to play longer. And more hours means more money from subscriptions. There's nothing wrong with this system, but that doesn't mean its fun for everyone who plays the game. Your argument that not liking the leveling grind means you don't like the entire game is pretty flawed though. Leveling 'progression' is only one of many aspects of the game and even if that's all YOU enjoy, that doesn't mean the rest of the game doesn't exist, nor does it render it invalid for everyone else.
    You reward the game for being unenjoyable which means you aren't getting value for your money.
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    Last edited by Edax; 08-23-2020 at 02:57 AM.

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    no it bloody isn't, you can level up easily enough in this game, paying £13 for something that can be done in a few days is just ridiculous, maybe if it was £5 i might understand but that price tag is way too high.
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    Marielle Sansoleil
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    Honestly, the only reason not to do it are the Class Quests for the Job. If those don't matter to you, I see no issues.
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    Player Gothicshark's Avatar
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    Marielle Sansoleil
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gula View Post
    Depends on how quick you are to adapt.

    I jumped BLM just to be able to do the caster DPS story and regretted it. Even with PotD practice I couldn't grasp the job. But hey, apparently it's the easiest job to learn.

    So it varies per person I'd say.
    BLM, is nowhere near the easiest Job to learn, I would say Dancer is. BLM is a set procedural job, where you have very little reliance on procs, BLM is about mana control vs biggest hitters, the only proc is an Instant cast DOT. Also learning how to not move or minimal moving on a duty is key to BLM DPS. However, watching the videos and using a Target dummy to get the rotation even for a long term BLM player is helpful.

    I would say DPS Casters, in General, are all higher difficulty classes to learn. Ranged DPS are the way easier Jobs to learn, Tanking and Healing are the Easiest except Astra. BTW Ninja and Samurai are also technically hard to master but are easy to learn. I'm not up on Dragoon, so I can't comment on how easy or hard it is.
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    Player Gothicshark's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by SavishSalacious View Post
    (I still don't know what OGCD means, I know something global cool down) .
    Off Global Cooldown, these are abilities you can weave into your rotation without changing the cast speed of your abilities. ie Sidewinder and Shadowbite which share a cooldown are not on the OGCD which means you can do your single target DPS rotation uninterrupted and still toss in AOE.
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