Housing Ownership System Abuse

[Catstab]

Except with these threads, one side has never been (nor do they show any desire to ever be) civil about it. They are always quick to vilify which is why my view of them is rather dim to say the least.

I've been exceedingly civil in all of my posts. I've stuck thoroughly to facts. The people with multiple houses are not breaking the rules. That's my whole point, and my only point.

Your moral rule set applies only to you, that's how morals work. Don't want more than one house? Great, don't buy more than one. But don't say that "well, you might not be breaking the rules, but in my head you are!" You say 'one side is quick to vilify' and yet you also say 'people who don't abide by my personal morals are selfish, and being selfish is wrong' So I'm not sure if you're admitting that your entire argument is just an attempt to vilify multiple house owners, or what you are trying to say here.

[Almagnus1]

I've been exceedingly civil in all of my posts. I've stuck thoroughly to facts. The people with multiple houses are not breaking the rules. That's my whole point, and my only point.

Your moral rule set applies only to you, that's how morals work. Don't want more than one house? Great, don't buy more than one. But don't say that "well, you might not be breaking the rules, but in my head you are!" You say 'one side is quick to vilify' and yet you also say 'people who don't abide by my personal morals are selfish, and being selfish is wrong' So I'm not sure if you're admitting that your entire argument is just an attempt to vilify multiple house owners, or what you are trying to say here.

You're not who I was referring to.

[Penthea]

Honestly sis, you vilify yourself. You don't need any help from anyone else.

I did not call anyone out on their house ownership with screenshots
I did not engage in literal name calling
I did not demand the opposition do anything
I did not attempt to start a witch hunt by targetting one person's houses in particular with information such as character names or locations
I did not do a lot of the things some complained about from other players in the thread

It looks like to me that only thing I have done to vilify myself is dare to disagree with some of you about whether hoarding should be allowed or not.

Yes I did eventually say some of you are abusing the housing system but this was after I literally had several people gang up on me to teach me a lesson for something I did not even do. Because you know what? It felt like I was being treated the same way as some of you treat the housing system: "I do this because I can."

I tried to be civil but this is meaningless to you for the simple fact that we're not on the same side. When OP was no longer around to be targeted for whatever ill deeds you claimed they did, you moved on to me. A convenient target even though I had not done what they did.

And then you all pat each other on the back for ganging up on me to teach me a lesson for things I did not do. I would ask how you think this makes you look but it's clear that you do not care. Some of you only care that you feel good about making someone else feel awful.

I'm a regular voice against house hoarding and you hate it so much that you're trying to push me away from the conversation to make it as unpleasant as possible for me. Well sorry to inform you but you're not going to make me shut up about it. I have a right to use my voice and I will continue to use it.

I will however take my leave of this thread because it is no longer about house hoarding at all. It has turned into the exact messes I spoke about in earlier posts. I have no interest in keeping such a thing alive. See you again on the next inevitable thread that criticises your housing habits.

EDIT: and before someone else says "bUt yOu TrIeD tO tElL PeOpLe tHe MeAnInGs Of PeRmIsSiOn AnD SeLFiShNeSs" it was only because someone else had done that first and I felt they were distorting the meanings to suit their argument. Permission to do something does not mean doing that thing is automatically not bad, and a selfish act does not need real life consequences to be selfish. Apparently I deeply offended some people with this one. A bit amusing.

[Awha]

To be honest I never understood why some take offense to being called selfish especially when it comes to a hobby. If one has the means snd wants to go han with their hobby go for it.

[Arielen]

Yes I did eventually say some of you are abusing the housing system but this was after I literally had several people gang up on me to teach me a lesson for something I did not even do. Because you know what? It felt like I was being treated the same way as some of you treat the housing system: "I do this because I can."

I tried to be civil but this is meaningless to you for the simple fact that we're not on the same side. When OP was no longer around to be targeted for whatever ill deeds you claimed they did, you moved on to me. A convenient target even though I had not done what they did.

And then you all pat each other on the back for ganging up on me to teach me a lesson for things I did not do. I would ask how you think this makes you look but it's clear that you do not care. Some of you only care that you feel good about making someone else feel awful.

I'm a regular voice against house hoarding and you hate it so much that you're trying to push me away from the conversation to make it as unpleasant as possible for me. Well sorry to inform you but you're not going to make me shut up about it. I have a right to use my voice and I will continue to use it.

Lumping everyone that disagrees with you into one distinct group which you can easily and conveniently ignore is the reason I'm irritated with you, not because of any other reason. There's no great and grand conspiratorial common consciousness operating against you. You make it sound as though this is some kind of coordinated effort to eject you from a conversation rather than different people rolling their eyes at an overly played out argument.

There's a reason why Sadu's Housing discord and other groups basically soft bans these complaints and discussions and it's because they're so played out that everyone gets annoyed about it on impact. Someone new joins the discord to camp plots, someone reloes into it and there's a 2hour long 'debate' where 6 people are telling 1 person to shut up because they're tired of hearing about how toxic it is when someone reloes into a plot at during primetime (as if there's some kind of conspiracy and everyone reloing for any reason is in on it).

No one is trying to make you feel like you're scum of the earth. A more accurate comparison is pelting your dad with popcorn because he keeps making the same crappy jokes during a movie.

[Divinemights]

So now these guys have issue with people owning houses on multiple service accounts too?

[Arielen]

So now these guys have issue with people owning houses on multiple service accounts too?

that's an unintended use of game mechanics ma'am

[Almagnus1]

So now these guys have issue with people owning houses on multiple service accounts too?

Some do, some don't. I'm the latter.

[xxvaynxx]

Dude you seem like you're getting really mad, and I doubt it's worth getting so worked up over.

In case you haven't noticed (maybe you haven't, since it appears you've only posted on the forums ~22 times), people around here will never concede on anything. No matter the topic, no matter the person. You're getting so angry and you're just wasting your energy for nothing.

You don't always have to win, you can just walk away.

For real, that dude is about to have a blood vessel pop.

[ramsesh]

Yeah it really seems like you're on the verge of a meltdown. I don't think I've said a single rude thing to you and you're just lashing out because I happened to say something to you. Take a breath. Maybe log out for a bit. Raging is doing even less than the mudslinging that's been happening in this thread.

It's worrisome y'all can't sense the sarcasm in his posts.