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    Quote Originally Posted by JanVanding View Post
    To call it an exploit rather than using the tagging system in it's intended fashion but beneficially is to raise it in a negative light, the word exploit is used to highlight something as "This is negative", rather than a better term would be, using the mechanics in a beneficial method, yet using potentially unintended side effects, which I don't think it is because SE would have patched that out years ago if it was unintended.

    especially when the "answer" to the issue you're raising is monetization rather than I dunno, giving BLUs a better method of gaining exp quicker?
    You're literally exploiting a mechanic that's not intended to be used that way otherwise you should be able to get exp if the other person is in your party. As I said before, it's an anti griefing mechanic.

    There is no `issue` I just want to skip 1-60 like how i can skip 1-70 on any other job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MPK View Post
    You're literally exploiting a mechanic that's not intended to be used that way otherwise you should be able to get exp if the other person is in your party.

    There is no `issue` I just want to skip 1-60 like how i can skip 1-70 on any other job.
    So, yes, you do want it nerfed to monetize it, hence why you're still using the word Exploit when SE has made no comment for or against the strategy when it's been around for a while and could've been patched out ages ago.

    Edit: And yes, I can see that's what you're doing as you aren't offering up other solutions to increase the speed of the BLU leveling process, i.e access to DD/HoH/Roulettes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JanVanding View Post
    So, yes, you do want it nerfed to monetize it, hence why you're still using the word Exploit when SE has made no comment for or against the strategy when it's been around for a while and could've been patched out ages ago.
    When did I ever ask for it to be nerfed? Exploit is the right word to use here. There's no need to sugar coat it. It's same as slide casting, it's a bug, but it's hard to fix or there's no good solutions and not worth it to patch.

    I just want to skip 1-60
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    Quote Originally Posted by MPK View Post
    When did I ever ask for it to be monetized? Exploit is the right word to use here. There's no need to sugar coat it. It's same as slide casting, it's a bug, but it's hard and not worth it to patch.
    If it isn't patched out but known and no intention of being patched out, it's no longer called an exploit but a "Feature"

    Asking for them to put in a leveling potion while constantly saying "It's an exploit" is a call for monetization in place of the strategy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JanVanding View Post
    If it isn't patched out but known and no intention of being patched out, it's no longer called an exploit but a "Feature"

    Asking for them to put in a leveling potion while constantly saying "It's an exploit" is a call for monetization in place of the strategy.
    I don't think you know what the verb` exploit` means. You're literally taking advantage of something that's unintended. You can sugarcoat it however you want but at the end of the day it's an unintended `feature` aka a bug.

    All I'm asking for is a potion to skip level 1-60.

    Wow I'm amazed. Past page has been just us 2 defining what an exploit is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MPK View Post
    I don't think you know what the verb` exploit` means. You're literally taking advantage of something that's unintended. You can sugarcoat it however you want but at the end of the day it's an unintended `feature` aka a bug.

    All I'm asking for is a potion to skip level 1-60.
    Still not getting it.

    A bug that is used to gain a benefit that is unintended and is raised negatively which will likely be patched out = Exploit.
    A system that is used to gain benefit that is originally unintended but is not seen as an issue by the development team/won't be patched out = Feature.

    The tagging system, is not a bug, it's an intentional design with a beneficial side effect that the Dev team are not patching out, therefore it's become a feature.

    And just because you're okay with trying to get a strategy highlighted and removed so you can drop money on a skip potion doesn't mean everyone else is, or would want to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JanVanding View Post
    Still not getting it.

    A bug that is used to gain a benefit that is unintended and is raised negatively which will likely be patched out = Exploit.
    A system that is used to gain benefit that is originally unintended but is not seen as an issue by the development team/won't be patched out = Feature.

    The tagging system, is not a bug, it's an intentional design with a beneficial side effect that the Dev team are not patching out, therefore it's become a feature.

    And just because you're okay with trying to get a strategy highlighted and removed so you can drop money on a skip potion doesn't mean everyone else is, or would want to.
    That's amazing you're making up your own terms now. Look up the verb exploit for me. Google has it as `make full use of and derive benefit from (a resource).`

    eg. You're taking full use an anti grief system in an unexpected way.

    Edit: I mean you guys can sugar coat it as much as you want, but this thread isn't about exploiting an anti grief mechanic in an unintended way.
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    Last edited by MPK; 08-21-2020 at 05:30 AM.