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  1. #161
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    Let BLU have one thing. Overworld was meant to be their realm to run free and be OP.
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  2. #162
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranaku View Post
    I mean i can understand it, using your rockets to kill a bossfate with 3 hits alone so nobody else can get it is a really shitty move.

    But using the other bluemage skills isn't that bad.

    So it's clear what the person there tries to say:

    Doom -> Bossfate -> Only you getting the reward -> Bad

    Normal skills -> Bossfate -> All players getting the reward -> Good


    I am against exluding blues in general but adjusting fates so the bosses can't be doomed or killed with the launcher doesn't seem to be that bad, blues could still use their other overpowered sets but all other players would have a chance to also get gold, seems like the best compromise here but i have not much hope that SE will do anything in time.
    Problem is without those massively overpowered abilities BLU is reduced to a job with multiple 220 potency skills that are largely copies of each other.

    That's it. That's all they are. Sure their OGCD primal skills are good, but those are on CD's and there's only 4 available at any time.

    The whole point of BLU is supposed to be finding enemy weaknesses and exploiting them. Because elemental weakness doesn't exist in the overworld the only other weakness to exploit is status or instant kill.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
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  3. #163
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    ForteNightshade's Avatar
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    Kurenai Tenshi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dogempire View Post
    Just my personal opinion, but BLU is a half-baked niche job that isn't worth the effort of leveling, especially since the only time in recent memory that it's actually useful is one-shotting fates for this one event that will be irrelevant pretty soon.

    Yo-Kai event and being a completionist aside, there's not really a use for BLU since you can't even take it into duty finder or do any actually relevant content with it.
    Effort? Just grab a friend and have them powerlevel you outside Costa/Mor Dhona/Idllyshire. Takes all of an hour, tops.
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  4. #164
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    Barraind Faylestar
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    Problem is without those massively overpowered abilities BLU is reduced to a job with multiple 220 potency skills that are largely copies of each other.
    Thats everyone in ARR and most of HW, except for half of them not having AE's in half the required fate zones.


    Blu is miles ahead of everyone in synced content with just 1-2 AE's and 1 ailment + exploit skill. Having an I win button on a 60s cd and a spammable "do more damage than every other player combined because of overworld boss fate HP scaling" is just a bonus, which is a little absurd.

    I enjoy being able to use blu to do... anything, but its really silly that if it lands and syncs first, it can keep anyone else from doing that content.
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    Last edited by Barraind; 08-23-2020 at 03:20 AM.

  5. #165
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    Okami Amaterasuu
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    Effort? Just grab a friend and have them powerlevel you outside Costa/Mor Dhona/Idllyshire. Takes all of an hour, tops.
    Bold of you to assume I have friends /s

    On a more serious note, it's really only good for this one niche event, and becomes otherwise useless as a "job" with no access to relevant content or even the ability to be used to do dailies. It's probably worth leveling for the Yo-Kai event sure, but it's just going to return to being useless in the next few months once the event is over.
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  6. #166
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    Elise Marie
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    I’ve been doing these fates today and honestly I haven’t really seen BLU one shorting bosses or anything.

    The biggest problem I have is with them spamming that silly little lightning aoe they have like the mobs wouldn’t die just as quick if they didn’t. The effects make me feel a bit sick and it must be super boring to play like that.
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    Hayk Farsight
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vickii View Post
    I’ve been doing these fates today and honestly I haven’t really seen BLU one shorting bosses or anything.

    The biggest problem I have is with them spamming that silly little lightning aoe they have like the mobs wouldn’t die just as quick if they didn’t. The effects make me feel a bit sick and it must be super boring to play like that.
    It's more for tagging purposes. When I was doing the event I was going from Dragon's Voice for longer range foes to Ram's Voice for close range targets. The paralysis and freezing also helped with reducing how much damage people doing the fate could take too, so while it's boring, it's incredibly practical for making the grind a breeze. Though if you have the primal moves, you get the joys of burst damaging primal moves added in for good destructive measure.
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  8. #168
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    Elise Marie
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    I’ve been doing these fates today and honestly I haven’t really seen BLU one shorting bosses or anything.

    The biggest problem I have is with them spamming that silly little lightning aoe they have like the mobs wouldn’t die just as quick if they didn’t. The effects make me feel a bit sick and it must be super boring to play like that.
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  9. #169
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    Elise Marie
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    It's more for tagging purposes. When I was doing the event I was going from Dragon's Voice for longer range foes to Ram's Voice for close range targets. The paralysis and freezing also helped with reducing how much damage people doing the fate could take too, so while it's boring, it's incredibly practical for making the grind a breeze. Though if you have the primal moves, you get the joys of burst damaging primal moves added in for good destructive measure.
    Ahh tagging makes sense, use whatever you have. Just what I’ve seen is maybe 3-4 BLU just press it over and over. The sound and effects gets to you after a while. Also would be nice if they let melee tag before they start spamming it.
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    Krotoan Argaviel
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Vickii View Post
    I’ve been doing these fates today and honestly I haven’t really seen BLU one shorting bosses or anything.

    The biggest problem I have is with them spamming that silly little lightning aoe they have like the mobs wouldn’t die just as quick if they didn’t. The effects make me feel a bit sick and it must be super boring to play like that.
    Quick note, you can turn off the effects off for everyone but you. Just in case you weren't aware. Helps with zerged fates and raids.
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    WHERE IS THIS KETTLE EVERYONE KEEPS INTRODUCING ME TO?

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