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  1. #41
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    Quote Originally Posted by yotsuffy View Post
    Do you mean everybody should play BLU?
    In a MMO with 18 battle classes?
    Do you mean everybody should just handicap themselves, just because you choose to do so?

    You're the one still complaining you want to have your cake and eat it too.

    You want to be done now (which btw there are already people who finished it) but you don't want any competition. You want the freedom to use any class you want to use to do the event, but you want to deny others their freedom to use the class they choose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSpawnVFX View Post
    Do you mean everybody should just handicap themselves, just because you choose to do so?
    So we have 17/18 handicaped battle classes?
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSpawnVFX View Post
    You're the one still complaining you want to have your cake and eat it too.
    Can't I play too?
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSpawnVFX View Post
    You want to be done now (which btw there are already people who finished it)
    but you don't want any competition.
    What's your point? I don't care the competition, it's an MMO! For what I read, YOU don't want the competition.

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSpawnVFX View Post
    You want the freedom to use any class you want to use to do the event, but you want to deny others their freedom to use the class they choose.
    I don't deny players the freedom to use the class they choose. I state the disadvantage one specific limited job gives.
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  3. #43
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    Quote Originally Posted by yotsuffy View Post
    So we have 17/18 handicaped battle classes?

    Can't I play too?

    What's your point? I don't care the competition, it's an MMO! For what I read, YOU don't want the competition.


    I don't deny players the freedom to use the class they choose. I state the disadvantage one specific limited job gives.
    Uh, you're the one still complaining that you're getting FATES sniped from you and then you shifted goalposts that the mean BLU people are taking away FATEs from you.

    Everyone is out there doing the event and you want to do it now too? Cool, you still have to deal with everyone else being in the same area as you. Devs aren't going to give you your own special solo instance.

    You want to handicap yourself and use whichever job you want? Cool, you still have to deal with people using a job which has an advantage in this content and that you refuse to use that advantage yourself.

    Devs aren't going to do anything regarding "overcrowding" on the launch of an event that covers most of ARR and all HW and SB areas. And even if they do something regarding BLU, by the time they do everyone will have already got most of it done (like the overabundance of XP at BLU launch and the chocobo mini-exploit).

    Like I said, you can wait for it to calm down or do it now but adapt to circumstances. But sadly you seem to want everyone else to adjust to your whim instead.
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  4. #44
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSpawnVFX View Post
    Uh, you're the one still complaining that you're getting FATES sniped from you and then you shifted goalposts that the mean BLU people are taking away FATEs from you.

    Everyone is out there doing the event and you want to do it now too? Cool, you still have to deal with everyone else being in the same area as you. Devs aren't going to give you your own special solo instance.

    You want to handicap yourself and use whichever job you want? Cool, you still have to deal with people using a job which has an advantage in this content and that you refuse to use that advantage yourself.

    Devs aren't going to do anything regarding "overcrowding" on the launch of an event that covers most of ARR and all HW and SB areas. And even if they do something regarding BLU, by the time they do everyone will have already got most of it done (like the overabundance of XP at BLU launch and the chocobo mini-exploit).

    Like I said, you can wait for it to calm down or do it now but adapt to circumstances. But sadly you seem to want everyone else to adjust to your whim instead.
    My my, you can read but don't understand what you read, right?
    Well, read again.
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  5. #45
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSpawnVFX View Post
    I forgot another pro: the less people in the area, the easier FATEs are. They scale by number of players in an instance.
    If I remember correctly, ARR and HW FATEs scale based on the number who did the same FATE prior. And SB and ShB FATEs scale the same way but also nearby FATEs are scaled with them.
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  6. #46
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    Quote Originally Posted by yotsuffy View Post
    My my, you can read but don't understand what you read, right?
    Well, read again.
    A simple "No u" would suffice.

    Quote Originally Posted by ACE135 View Post
    If I remember correctly, ARR and HW FATEs scale based on the number who did the same FATE prior. And SB and ShB FATEs scale the same way but also nearby FATEs are scaled with them.
    Well, the intention still stands. FATEs then will be easier and will get even easier with time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSpawnVFX View Post
    People's impatience isn't a flaw in the system the developers need to address.

    You want to do it now, you deal with the cons of that. You decide to rather pace yourself, you won't have a hard time getting your FATEs done. You can also run FATEs at off hours, when there's less people offline.
    why is it that every post I see of you, specifically, you can't help but talk down to literally every person ever
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  8. #48
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ammokkx View Post
    why is it that every post I see of you, specifically, you can't help but talk down to literally every person ever
    I didn't know this thread was about me now.
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    It does seem a touch silly that FATE bosses are even vulnerable to BLU's instakills/gravity effects in the first place because it makes it difficult or impossible for others who aren't partied with them to get gold when they're present, which is an issue regardless of whether or not this event is going on.
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    When even Square Enix forgets that Blue Mages exist... XD
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