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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSpawnVFX View Post
    People's impatience isn't a flaw in the system the developers need to address.

    You want to do it now, you deal with the cons of that. You decide to rather pace yourself, you won't have a hard time getting your FATEs done. You can also run FATEs at off hours, when there's less people offline.
    I see valid cons with:
    - "can't see NPC on day one with all players on him/her!"
    - "new glam expensive at day one!"
    ... but facing BLU advantage?

    And again: "play when they're gone/done"?!


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    Should I wait to play and come back in a week, I'll meet BLUs again and they'll tell me: "you had the time to do it! Now let me do it my way!"
    Those BLUs will have waited to do it their way. Should I wait more again?
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    Quote Originally Posted by yotsuffy View Post
    I see valid cons with:
    - "can't see NPC on day one with all players on him/her!"
    - "new glam expensive at day one!"
    ... but facing BLU advantage?

    And again: "play when they're gone/done"?!


    edit:
    Should I wait to play and come back in a week, I'll meet BLUs again and they'll tell me: "you had the time to do it! Now let me do it my way!"
    Those BLUs will have waited to do it their way. Should I wait more again?
    I forgot another pro: the less people in the area, the easier FATEs are. They scale by number of players in an instance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Infindox View Post
    I already knew that BLU was going to cause issues after I decided to help some newbies get the "The Eyes Have It" fate achievement in Central Highlands and me and someone else kill the guy in like 5 seconds. But it'll be like everything else and die down a bit. Also don't be afraid to get into parties! Easier to get gold that way.
    Parties are indeed good for FATEs.

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSpawnVFX View Post
    I forgot another pro: the less people in the area, the easier FATEs are. They scale by number of players in an instance.
    Looks like another cons to me: a BLU comes in, scale makes you lose all chance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yotsuffy View Post
    Parties are indeed good for FATEs.


    Looks like another cons to me: a BLU comes in, scale makes you lose all chance.
    Do you have a malfunctioning copy of the game that doesn't allow you access to BLU?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSpawnVFX View Post
    Do you have a malfunctioning copy of the game that doesn't allow you access to BLU?
    Do you mean everybody should play BLU?
    In a MMO with 18 battle classes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by yotsuffy View Post
    Do you mean everybody should play BLU?
    In a MMO with 18 battle classes?
    Not everyone, no. Consider BLU a seasoning. Too much and you've ruined a perfect meal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yotsuffy View Post
    Do you mean everybody should play BLU?
    In a MMO with 18 battle classes?
    Do you mean everybody should just handicap themselves, just because you choose to do so?

    You're the one still complaining you want to have your cake and eat it too.

    You want to be done now (which btw there are already people who finished it) but you don't want any competition. You want the freedom to use any class you want to use to do the event, but you want to deny others their freedom to use the class they choose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSpawnVFX View Post
    Do you mean everybody should just handicap themselves, just because you choose to do so?
    So we have 17/18 handicaped battle classes?
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSpawnVFX View Post
    You're the one still complaining you want to have your cake and eat it too.
    Can't I play too?
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSpawnVFX View Post
    You want to be done now (which btw there are already people who finished it)
    but you don't want any competition.
    What's your point? I don't care the competition, it's an MMO! For what I read, YOU don't want the competition.

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSpawnVFX View Post
    You want the freedom to use any class you want to use to do the event, but you want to deny others their freedom to use the class they choose.
    I don't deny players the freedom to use the class they choose. I state the disadvantage one specific limited job gives.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSpawnVFX View Post
    I forgot another pro: the less people in the area, the easier FATEs are. They scale by number of players in an instance.
    If I remember correctly, ARR and HW FATEs scale based on the number who did the same FATE prior. And SB and ShB FATEs scale the same way but also nearby FATEs are scaled with them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yotsuffy View Post
    My my, you can read but don't understand what you read, right?
    Well, read again.
    A simple "No u" would suffice.

    Quote Originally Posted by ACE135 View Post
    If I remember correctly, ARR and HW FATEs scale based on the number who did the same FATE prior. And SB and ShB FATEs scale the same way but also nearby FATEs are scaled with them.
    Well, the intention still stands. FATEs then will be easier and will get even easier with time.
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