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    Or you can just wait a bit that things settle down to do it, since the event last until 5.4. You were never in an obligation to get all the rewards under 3 hours since the event release. People were already doing the same mistake at the previous iteration, trying to rush all the fates the quickest possible despite the event being several weeks long, which ended with quite a few players getting a burn-out. Especially if you don't like fates that much, it is better to do only a few per day.

    For the loot rate it is RNG as usual. Your numbers means nothing with so few trys, you need several thousands of them to get viable statistics. The fact that i did see someone get his suzaku mount on his first clear doesn't mean that the drop rate should be nerfed. Or like these fates crystals relics, sometimes i get them on the first try, and sometimes i need ten of them. It is all good or bad luck really.

    And if you are impressed by this event so much, well, don't even try to get my 10 000 fates title XD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kleeya View Post
    Or you can just wait a bit that things settle down to do it, since the event last until 5.4. You were never in an obligation to get all the rewards under 3 hours since the event release. People were already doing the same mistake at the previous iteration, trying to rush all the fates the quickest possible despite the event being several weeks long, which ended with quite a few players getting a burn-out. Especially if you don't like fates that much, it is better to do only a few per day.
    I hate this mentality that is always parroted, in more than just this game. I want to play the event now, I want the stuff now, or I just generally want to play. I don't want to sit around doing nothing or something else.

    More so just attacking the mentality in general than specifically the context of this event. I haven't even logged in for like 3 days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    I hate this mentality that is always parroted, in more than just this game. I want to play the event now, I want the stuff now, or I just generally want to play. I don't want to sit around doing nothing or something else.

    More so just attacking the mentality in general than specifically the context of this event. I haven't even logged in for like 3 days.
    Then the person has to put up and shut up. No one's more special than the other to ask for people to stop doing FATEs so they can do them. Want to play now? Get used to having FATEs zergged and snipped from you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSpawnVFX View Post
    Then the person has to put up and shut up. No one's more special than the other to ask for people to stop doing FATEs so they can do them. Want to play now? Get used to having FATEs zergged and snipped from you.
    Or, alternatively, the flaws in the system can be relayed and potentially addressed by the development team.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    Or, alternatively, the flaws in the system can be relayed and potentially addressed by the development team.
    Pretty much what I was going to reply.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kleeya View Post
    Or you can just wait a bit that things settle down to do it, since the event last until 5.4. You were never in an obligation to get all the rewards under 3 hours since the event release. People were already doing the same mistake at the previous iteration, trying to rush all the fates the quickest possible despite the event being several weeks long, which ended with quite a few players getting a burn-out. Especially if you don't like fates that much, it is better to do only a few per day.

    For the loot rate it is RNG as usual. Your numbers means nothing with so few trys, you need several thousands of them to get viable statistics. The fact that i did see someone get his suzaku mount on his first clear doesn't mean that the drop rate should be nerfed. Or like these fates crystals relics, sometimes i get them on the first try, and sometimes i need ten of them. It is all good or bad luck really.

    And if you are impressed by this event so much, well, don't even try to get my 10 000 fates title XD
    I don't get it.
    I'm just stating some possible unfair advantage and the only comment I get - but twice already - about it is: "play when they're gone/done"?! In a MMO?

    For the numbers, I agree with you: only with big numbers can one expect statistics to match probabilities. My little numbers can't represents probabilities. Though if I get such a pattern every time and other players too, that could make sense!

    edit:
    I saw other replies after I wrote this one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yotsuffy View Post
    I don't get it.
    I'm just stating some possible unfair advantage and the only comment I get - but twice already - about it is: "play when they're gone/done"?! In a MMO?
    In your first posts you are clearly complaining about two things :

    - drop rates which makes you do too much fates for your liking ;
    - way too much other people doing them, leaving you barely any time to attack.

    That's why i was telling you to :

    - do the event on a longer period so you that you don't feel overwhelmed by the number of fates;
    - and to start it later when there will be way less people to compete with (including BLUs).

    I don't see what's hard to understand.

    As for the "but i want to do it now !" other answers, then don't complain of having to deal with the problems who comes along with that XD After all you are supposed to know how the game you are playing is working. It's like trying to go on hunt trains right after the 500 upgrades hunt items have been released, and being all surprised that A ranks are not displaying on the screen and that there is so much people that you can not even enter the next map anymore. Or being like "but i don't even see the npc with so much people flocking around it !" 5 minutes after the start of an event (i now always do them a few days later just because of that).

    Currently a lot of complains in my FC chat, but people still being like "uh no, i want to do it now !" when being told that by doing that a few days later, it will be way more enjoyable with all the intial rush problems gone. Go figure XD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kleeya View Post
    In your first posts you are clearly complaining about two things :

    - drop rates which makes you do too much fates for your liking ;
    - way too much other people doing them, leaving you barely any time to attack.

    That's why i was telling you to :

    - do the event on a longer period so you that you don't feel overwhelmed by the number of fates;
    - and to start it later when there will be way less people to compete with (including BLUs).

    I don't see what's hard to understand.
    Indeed, I complained about FATE farming. Let's say it re-opened the wound left by ATMA farm. The worst relic step I've known and the one that made me stop my relic for months or years... until it was really nerfed. FATE farming that made me not complete this event years ago. So, yes, I have an issue with FATE farming.

    For the "way too much people", I may have been misunderstood. When I say this:
    About BLU:
    FATEs are over-hunted. As a WHM I usually can place a DOT and target is dead already.
    So, please let every players have a chance. Don't take FATEs for yourselves.
    I state that since there are a lot of people it's already difficult to hit anything. Thus, adding BLU to the FATEs makes them just impossible.
    Doing those FATEs day 1 with so many people is, when you can get some from them, kinda fun. Voices sound effects, angry-crazy-mob running over the FATE... It's kinda rare and fun to see that! When you get some from those FATEs.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kleeya View Post
    As for the "but i want to do it now !" other answers, then don't complain of having to deal with the problems who comes along with that XD After all you are supposed to know how the game you are playing is working. It's like trying to go on hunt trains right after the 500 upgrades hunt items have been released, and being all surprised that A ranks are not displaying on the screen and that there is so much people that you can not even enter the next map anymore. Or being like "but i don't even see the npc with so much people flocking around it !" 5 minutes after the start of an event (i now always do them a few days later just because of that).

    Currently a lot of complains in my FC chat, but people still being like "uh no, i want to do it now !" when being told that by doing that a few days later, it will be way more enjoyable with all the intial rush problems gone. Go figure XD
    I didn't complain about the "so many people" (edit) "technical issues".
    When I say:
    I see valid cons with:
    - "can't see NPC on day one with all players on him/her!"
    - "new glam expensive at day one!"
    I consider such cons as obvious and normal. If I want something day 1, these are part of it. If I don't want to deal with them, I wait.

    I hope I understood what you wanted to say because I don't see what else to answer!
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    Last edited by yotsuffy; 08-20-2020 at 02:19 AM.