Yo-Kai event (2020)

[Vriel]

The only issue with BLU is the missle spell being able to take 75% of a boss in 3 seconds. If they only use their normal kit you still get some hits in, enough to get silver, most of the times still gold. Of course day 1 it was more BLU zergs killing everything, but you just had to avoid day 1 and by now it is fine. Except people still killing bosses in under 10s with missle, something is wrong if you think that is ok or fun.

[Juicymama]

so what if BLU is op for 1 event? Can't bring BLU to any current lv 80 contents, let alone old lv 70 contents.

BLU deserves to have some fun too.

And as many have stressed, this isn't a end in 1 week event. There's so much time before 5.4 comes.

This is an advantage earned by players who have level 60 blu with magic learned. Just wait it out.

People are whining like regular crafters competing with penta meld crafters for ranking title and calling it unfair.

[LittleAsian]

so what if BLU is op for 1 event? Can't bring BLU to any current lv 80 contents, let alone old lv 70 contents.

BLU deserves to have some fun too.

And as many have stressed, this isn't a end in 1 week event. There's so much time before 5.4 comes.

This is an advantage earned by players who have level 60 blu with magic learned. Just wait it out.

People are whining like regular crafters competing with penta meld crafters for ranking title and calling it unfair.

ever consider people who can play 1 month regularly-stop few month-play back another month?
no?
its call life

[Frosthaven]

Heh, I had a player mad at me for killing things too quickly on blue. For the next fate I just auto-attacked, but still they complained that I was nuking. They saw a Blu and just assumed it HAD to be the Blu causing fates to go down quickly, and not the million player death ball.

There is a happy middle ground, imo. I wouldn't have done this event if I couldn't use Blu. It is not an exploit. But by the same token if there are a lot of people in the map moving around as a unit I wait until people show up to nuke anything. Same thing I did on my tanks for achievement fates, slowing down to give people a chance for a pickup. Or if possible I'd do enough to know I'd get gold and then fly off leaving the fate healthy for people to get credit. Don't actually have to stick to it.

These two things aren't mutually exclusive. You can both understand that it isn't cheating but also have some compassion for fellow players. If you do run into issues, take it up with the devs - they are the only ones that can change anything.

[Hysterior]

I started doing the FATES as BLU yesterday (which I did not bother to finish leveling before) to kill 2 chocobos with one lalafell.
Don't know why people would need to use super strong skills for these FATES though. Been only using the 2 ram voices and I am pretty sure I always had gold ranks.
People really need to chill

[Krotoan]

We are going to have this event till 5.4

It is going to be a while. Y'all need to put out them fires in your britches and realize that ALL that giant ball of fate murder is going to die down really quickly, likely within a couple weeks. Last time the event was out it was the same dead fate wasteland it's always been toward the middle of its run.


This is a lot of noise and fuss about something that's going to be a non-issue very soon.

[StriderShinryu]

Rolled a new character to check out the story revamp and, yeah, this event is currently pretty terrible for those who are new to the game. First off, you may not even have a mount yet, never mind one that can fly. Then, assuming you can even get to the FATE before it's zerged to death, you may not even have any AoE abilities to even tag anything. More advanced players using BLU just makes this even worse.

I'm lucky, I guess, because I know what's going on and don't really care all that much personally about the event but this has to be a pretty bad look for those who aren't in the know and/or are truly new to the game. Sure the zerg fest will likely subside in a couple of weeks but that's still a crappy message for new players. "Hey, you might be excited for this event but sit there and be quiet while the big boys get to play."

I'm not saying players shouldn't fly or ride mounts or should abstain from using BLU, just try to be considerate if you can.

[Melichoir]

Rolled a new character to check out the story revamp and, yeah, this event is currently pretty terrible for those who are new to the game. First off, you may not even have a mount yet, never mind one that can fly. Then, assuming you can even get to the FATE before it's zerged to death, you may not even have any AoE abilities to even tag anything. More advanced players using BLU just makes this even worse.

I'm lucky, I guess, because I know what's going on and don't really care all that much personally about the event but this has to be a pretty bad look for those who aren't in the know and/or are truly new to the game. Sure the zerg fest will likely subside in a couple of weeks but that's still a crappy message for new players. "Hey, you might be excited for this event but sit there and be quiet while the big boys get to play."

I'm not saying players shouldn't fly or ride mounts or should abstain from using BLU, just try to be considerate if you can.

Being considerate is one thing and thats fine to ask. But more and more people are becoming belligerent about BLU even existing. See the other thread which is literally "Dont allow limited classes to do event." Which is exactly what I pointed out was the end result of all this foolishness. And yeah, youre spot on. Having a flight mount gives you a hard advantage over people who dont have one, or having AoE abilities. But lets not worry about that and keep saying BLU is the problem.

[StriderShinryu]

Being considerate is one thing and thats fine to ask. But more and more people are becoming belligerent about BLU even existing. See the other thread which is literally "Dont allow limited classes to do event." Which is exactly what I pointed out was the end result of all this foolishness. And yeah, youre spot on. Having a flight mount gives you a hard advantage over people who dont have one, or having AoE abilities. But lets not worry about that and keep saying BLU is the problem.

I agree completely. Is BLU an advantage for the event? Absolutely, even if no instant kill attacks are used simply because of ease of access to various AoEs. But the travel speed issue was probably a bigger problem from what I observed. As a pugilist (who doesn't get an AoE until level 26 and has no gap closer early on, and no ranged attack at all), I was frequently getting to FATEs late and struggling to even land more than a few hits before the FATE ended, and that was even in cases where it didn't appear any or many in the FATE zerg were using BLU.

I can totally understand those who enjoy BLU wanting more things to do with it's unique toolset and this event sort of/kind of does bring that to the table. It's just not a balanced event at all for newer players or lower level players for various reasons and BLU is only part of that equation.

To me, a fairer compromise would be to have the BLU instant kill attacks not work on the boss FATEs and maybe bump up the participation reward for players who are closer to the proper level for the FATE itself so that even if they can only get a few whacks in they're more likely to get a higher participation ranking.

[Shougun]

Ho I didn't even highlight this when I quote the Live Letter:

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...=1#post4829920

Well, this event, with BLUs around, shows a good example of balance of the game being broken.

"Meant to be enjoyed in solo environments":



Without other people you get 1/4 of your job's best value, if that.

Besides the strictly party based reward mount, you also have most spells that add mechanical value and interest behind party content, without party content you miss out on a lot of power and mechanics. Very lamed blue mage if you skip that party step. And so far has been most popularly used in parties to expedite grinds like this FATE one or moogle tomestones. So yeah. Lol.

To me, a fairer compromise would be to have the BLU instant kill attacks not work on the boss FATEs and maybe bump up the participation reward for players who are closer to the proper level for the FATE itself so that even if they can only get a few whacks in they're more likely to get a higher participation ranking.

Even though I'll probably still want to salt the earth about blue mage my more logical and 'for the best of whatever 'this is supposed to be'' side wants to suggest that such a change is a switch for FATE events. Because taking it away entirely will remove one of it's few 'nice to have' values. I don't think it would be ideal, given situations where things are quiet at least, to have everything be immune to one of the key reasons blue mage exists in the state it does currently (doom, tail screw, lv5 death, missile, etc).

Just my tortured imo though lol.