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  1. #1
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    Flay_wind's Avatar
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    Lily D'kryl
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    Shiva
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    Dark Knight Lv 97
    Quote Originally Posted by Zebyxus View Post
    On the whole subject of BLU, what's aggravating people is that BLU aren't subject to the same restrictions every other class is regarding fates, they can walk into any fate and still have their full roster of abilities active, whereas any other class can be reduced to maybe 7 or 8 abilities excluding role abilities, so it's a case of being lucky enough to have the right ability active to compete with a BLU at low levels.
    And the price for that is not being able to do roulettes, squadrons, PotD, Eureka, anything past HW, etc, etc.
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    Last edited by Flay_wind; 08-20-2020 at 08:36 PM.

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    Boo Box
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    Rafflesia
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    Sage Lv 100
    This is SO much better than it used to be. Granted, I only ever tried it on the first run of it, which was pure hell. I'm not sure if they had buffed it when they brought it back the first time. But this! This is nice and easy. I've finished up five minions tonight, and my worst so far took 27 fates to clear. My quickest was 15.
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    Yot Suffy
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    Odin
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    Bard Lv 90
    Playing BLU to have access to skills giving a clear advantage over all the other players with whom one is in competition is the abuse of an exploit.
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    Chryden Speakel
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    Odin
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by yotsuffy View Post
    Playing BLU to have access to skills giving a clear advantage over all the other players with whom one is in competition is the abuse of an exploit.
    So using BLU is an exploit?
    Then thousands of players should be banned because running aurum vale as blue to get these grind tokens is unfair and forbidden.

    Why haven't I see a single complaint about that?
    A right, because you were happy to have a blu in your group who reduces the time needed for for a run to under 10 min.
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    Yot Suffy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Curisu View Post
    So using BLU is an exploit?
    Then thousands of players should be banned because running aurum vale as blue to get these grind tokens is unfair and forbidden.

    Why haven't I see a single complaint about that?
    A right, because you were happy to have a blu in your group who reduces the time needed for for a run to under 10 min.
    Wanna rephrase myself? What about this:
    Playing is the abuse of an exploit.
    At least if you want to put words I didn't say in my mouth, do it as stupidly as possible.

    And since when did I had a BLU in my group? The only time I grouped was when I accepted an invitation and when I realised a BLU was in, I didn't group again.

    Don't give me words I didn't say.
    Don't accuse me for benefits I refused.
    At least, BE HONEST.

    edit:
    For the complaints, open your eyes and read the forum.
    Again, BE HONEST.
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    Boo Box
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    Rafflesia
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    Quote Originally Posted by yotsuffy View Post
    Playing BLU to have access to skills giving a clear advantage over all the other players with whom one is in competition is the abuse of an exploit.
    Having access to flying also gives a massive advantage over some players. Is this an exploit too?

    People can get around that limitation by grouping up with someone with a 2-person mount. Just like people can get around all the various BLUs by grouping up with them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kamome-chan View Post
    Stop being selfish the blue mages destroying fates will likely make another player only get bronze if they are lucky.
    But really, this. There are skills that won't obliterate mobs, use them. Try and be at least a little considerate of your fellows players.

    Just a little aside about my adventures from yesterday. I cleared 7 weapons, so I was at it for a while, but in one zone people wouldn't stop screaming about BLUs killing everything. The issue wasn't so much people on BLU, but just that there was a huge amount of players running around zerging all the FATEs and so if you showed up the tiniest bit late, good chance you weren't getting gold. If things are dying quickly, it's not always the fault of a BLU.
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    Last edited by Skivvy; 08-21-2020 at 01:23 AM.

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    Iyami Galvayra
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    Cactuar
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    An exploit is using a game mechanic in a way not intended by the developers. BLU is working as intended. It's not an exploit just because you don't like it.
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    Yot Suffy
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    Odin
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    An exploit is using a game mechanic in a way not intended by the developers. BLU is working as intended. It's not an exploit just because you don't like it.
    BLU is a limited job so all other classes/jobs won't compete with it on regular content.
    FATE farming events are regular content.

    Doing FATE farming events with BLU is an exploit.
    edit: of course when every other classes/jobs struggle to get something too along. Don't put words in my mouth you know I didn't say.
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    Last edited by yotsuffy; 08-20-2020 at 08:50 PM.
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    Iyami Galvayra
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    Quote Originally Posted by yotsuffy View Post
    BLU is a limited job so all other classes/jobs won't compete with it on regular content.
    FATE farming events are regular content.

    Doing FATE farming events with BLU is an exploit.
    BLU was intended to be powerful in open-world content and restricted in instanced/roulette content. Remind me, where are FATEs, instances or the open world?

    edit: of course when every other classes/jobs struggle to get something too along. Don't put words in my mouth you know I didn't say.
    I sincerely don't know what you're trying to say here.
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    Kaynneth Menad
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    Zodiark
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by yotsuffy View Post
    BLU is a limited job so all other classes/jobs won't compete with it on regular content.
    FATE farming events are regular content.

    Doing FATE farming events with BLU is an exploit.
    edit: of course when every other classes/jobs struggle to get something too along. Don't put words in my mouth you know I didn't say.
    FATEs are still FATEs during FATE farming events
    The devs allowed BLU to do whatever they want in FATEs for over two years.

    Using BLU in this is as much of an exploit as cross-server hunts.
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