Elementals and the Shroud

[MrThinker]

Also, so I'm not just stinking up this thread with my stuff, I got curious and started googling. Found this pretty interesting read up on the Elementals and Nophica as well as other of The Twelve.

https://ffxiv-roleplayers.com/showth...5665#pid275665

Nophica's like half way down, if the link doesn't automatically take you to it. Thought it was very cool, and makes me wish 2.0 kept the strict plot beat about The Elementals around. Like with the WHM AF being an Elemental manifesting itself as clothing.

I feel like there is some miscommunication going on.
At the risk of sounding like an idiot because you were indeed addressing this; In the case of the Quarrymill refugees, we wanted to know where it is specifically said that only the female refugees were granted permission by the elementals to reside in the Shroud?
The link only says the elementals decide who is allowed to stay.
And Gridania having a fear of outsiders. Which are things that are known by a few of us here already.

[Vyrerus]

I feel like there is some miscommunication going on.

The link is for the OP, that post is basically to try to make up for me semi-derailing the thread, albeit to a related point.

As far as Quarrymill goes, shucky darn, NPC dialogue changes after Stormblood completion, so I went to one my alts that's around 2.4. I redid all of the Quarrymill quests, looked through all the leves there, and shucky darn could not find the line I remembered.

I thought Wlfric on the upper partition said it after you do his quest, but no, he just says something along the lines of, "If the refugees are of no use to the wood, then they must be ousted. Call me a bloodless demon if you will, but they must go." After Stormblood completion he says, "With Ala Mhigo now free, you'd think the refugee situation would improve but..." In my memory it was something along the lines of, "The refugees are of no use to us, save the women, they'll do quite nicely, hehehe." But I guess I dreamed that up. Sorry to detract from the thread.

Of course, Albreda is a spurned, single woman. She's the only readily apparent Ala Mhigan allowed, though Deidra has the same pants and shoes as her and the other refugees. The way the Leves portray Quarrymill, there's enough accepted Ala Mhigans that they form a band of "free swords" that help the Wood Wailers deal with bandits and poachers.

Insofar as the Elementals' approval goes, foreigners are required to spend one night in Quarrymill, as that's the amount of time the Elementals need to judge them worthy or not, apparently. Prior to POTD I don't believe that Padjali was there, but even without him the place has two Hearers. But I mean, reading through stuff about Hearers there's no way to tell how good they are, and if they tell the truth or not all of the time. Basically, non-Hearers have to take it on faith that what the Hearers are saying is true. The angle my wrong-memory has is that the Gridanians basically can lie to outsiders on a whim, because the Elementals largely do not care about the affairs of men, so long as they do not harm the balance of the Black Shroud.


Alas, it seems all I was able to come up with, directly from Quarrymill, is mere implication. I was really hoping to comeback with what I remembered.