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    Housing Ownership Restrictions

    So after spending far too many hours basically clubbing on Aether after our maps group last Saturday, I think I understand why SE wants to retain the housing neighborhoods. What's not helping things, however, is the ability for a player to roll an alt and buy a house (which the alt only needs a jump potion to be able to buy a house).

    Here is what SE should do to fix part of this problem:
    • All characters on a server gain teleport locations to all the houses owned by all the characters on that server.
    • A player is unable to buy a personal house on a server if they have at least one personal house teleport location. In other words, one personal house per account per server.
    • Have SE indicate whichever house was bought first.
    • For the next couple of main updates (X.2, X.3, etc), SE should allow you to remove all decorations from your houses without penalty, and allow you to get a 100% refund on the house price if you choose to relinquish the house. Also, if you could put an item up on the market before using it with a house, you should be able to do so after retrieving it from the house.
    • After this time, SE should auto demolish all houses owned by an account except for the one bought first.
    • FC houses are completely unaffected by this, and FC houses do not count towards your personal house limit.

    For example, if I had three alts (Moe, Larry, and Curly) in addition to my main (Maley) on Catcuar, and everyone but Curly has a house, Curly wouldn't be able to buy a house until everyone else demolished theirs. If I was being stubborn, and Maley's house was bought first, after the grace period Moe and Larry's houses would be autodemolished.

    All in all, this really is a case of "this is why we can't have anything nice" as the above is a way to help better utilize the housing ward system while we also keep adding additional wards.
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    Correct me if I am wrong, I am pretty sure there is already such restriction as one house per one service account (excluding grandfather ones )
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    Sorry, but I don't think you understand what the current restrictions actually are.

    Unless I really misunderstood, your entire post is basically saying don't let people have more than one personal house per server per account? That is already the case and has been for a long time.

    One service account can currently have 8 FC houses (1 per character) and 1 personal house, per world.

    So if you already have a personal house you won't be able to buy one on an alt, so everything you just asked for is already implemented
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    Grandfathered houses aren't going away get over it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by worldofneil View Post
    Unless I really misunderstood, your entire post is basically saying don't let people have more than one personal house per server per account? That is already the case and has been for a long time.
    Not entirely, it's about ending the grandfathered in houses, specifically with:

    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    • Have SE indicate whichever house was bought first.
    And....

    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    • After this time, SE should auto demolish all houses owned by an account except for the one bought first.
    Freeing up the houses that have been grandfathered in would free up a bunch of houses, which would help with the housing distribution.

    Edit:
    I really don't want to get into the FC side of things, but the house should be bound to the FC, not to a particular player. That makes it easier for the players to see what's going on and you don't end up in a weird situation where the FC can't move to a new house because of something one of the officers (or FC leader) did that's screwing over the FC and no one is admitting to what's going on so the FC is stuck. That's a part of the policy (on https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes.../housing_land/ ) that should change.
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    They are not going to take away grandfathered houses, period
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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemights View Post
    They are not going to take away grandfathered houses, period
    I'm not certain it's that much of an absolute. I agree they won't take them away as long as the system remains as it is. If they did a major overhaul of the housing system that affected ownership of every house (possible if unlikely), the grandfather clause could be removed as part of a system reset.
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    they're not going to reset the system. the chaos would be unbelievable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by worldofneil View Post
    Sorry, but I don't think you understand what the current restrictions actually are.

    Unless I really misunderstood, your entire post is basically saying don't let people have more than one personal house per server per account? That is already the case and has been for a long time.

    One service account can currently have 8 FC houses (1 per character) and 1 personal house, per world.

    So if you already have a personal house you won't be able to buy one on an alt, so everything you just asked for is already implemented
    Unfortunately this is incorrect. SE removed this restriction sometime during the 4.2-4.3 timeframe and never updated their post. You can have 1 personal house and 8 FC houses per account per server at present. This is how you have people like Mew owning 50ish houses over on Gilgamesh. -_-
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    Quote Originally Posted by Numenor1379 View Post
    Unfortunately this is incorrect. SE removed this restriction sometime during the 4.2-4.3 timeframe and never updated their post. You can have 1 personal house and 8 FC houses per account per server at present. This is how you have people like Mew owning 50ish houses over on Gilgamesh. -_-
    That's literally what neil said. 8 fc houses (8 characters) and 1 personal house = 9 houses total.
    Also it incorrect about Mew, he no longer own 50 houses but I guess it easy to jump on a person and use them as a scapegoat.
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