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    Quote Originally Posted by Sabaku_Usagi View Post
    How? I don't see the difference in terms of "losing novelty", the same thing over and over is exactly that... the same thing over and over.
    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfie View Post
    Tell me why variety can't come from instances again? There is literally nothing positive that open world does that instanced can't.
    Instances are by definition a Single series of events. In an open world situation any number of factors can change freely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiote View Post
    Instances are by definition a Single series of events. In an open world situation any number of factors can change freely.
    Creating a variable that, in my opinion, is more exciting that any instance has to offer!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThePatriarch View Post
    Creating a variable that, in my opinion, is more exciting that any instance has to offer!
    The only thing that changes is the time and place that the NM would spawn and the people who could come to watch and help.

    As I have said before there is a big problem with open world content and thats the claim system, until they put in measures to stop outside members zerking an NM they are pretty much pointless (unless they make them like Leve monsters)

    Anyway there is nothing more exciting in open world vs dungeon, I would say the later is much more challenging because you can only take in a set amount of people.

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePatriarch View Post
    Before you post any more I have to ask, is PGL 14 your highest job/level?
    What because having a low level character instantly means you don't get an opinion ?

    And in XIV there is basically no open world, so its pointless to compare the two.
    There are 26 open world NM's someone needs to open his eyes.

    When compared to other games, its so minimal that it is practically non-existant.
    I think you mean compared to that other game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiote View Post
    Instances are by definition a Single series of events. In an open world situation any number of factors can change freely.
    What factors are available in open world, aside from other players/groups, that aren't in instances?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfie View Post
    What factors are available in open world, aside from other players/groups, that aren't in instances?
    Before you post any more I have to ask, is PGL 14 your highest job/level?

    And in XIV there is basically no open world, so its pointless to compare the two.

    We can compare from other games Open World/Instanced content but people will freak out and go nuts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfie View Post
    What factors are available in open world, aside from other players/groups, that aren't in instances?
    It's less about what is available and more about how content must be presented. Contrary to popular belief, Instances are not created to prevent competition, they are created to save resources. You sacrifice variability to ease the load on a single server. If you allow for a single instance to have a large set of variables you instantly take away any and all resources saved by forcing your servers to store and load a large number of different versions of the same instances. Open world event only occur once at a time. You can have all the variable occur at random, but only one set will ever happen at any given time.
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    And for the record..

    The "Best Gear in the game" should be completely subjective. It should come from everywhere.

    The biggest problem with what little end game we have so far is that there is actually definitively a "Best Gear in the game". The best gear in an MMO should always be a point of contention between players. If it is not, the Dev team has epicly failed at creating a strong enough variety in both Armour and Play Styles.
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    It's going to be a pain in the ass to coordinate entering an instance, especially because all of the present content is on a timer. You can essentially be held hostage by someone on another server who's not ready, or enters the instance and is AFK. Yes yes, this can happen on the same server, but there are no repercussions for someone on another server.

    I just have a bad taste in my mouth from the dungeon finder in WoW.... people will disagree with me, but I think it really degraded the community to something worse than it already was. FFXIV has an amazingly good community and if it were to take a hit because of this, I would have less of a reason to log on.
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    Stop posting
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    WTH they are not real ppl, you play with virtual characters in virtual world either they belong to your server or not.
    Do not use it if you got some kind of nonexistent to everyone else problem.
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