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  1. #31
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    Green_and_a_Half's Avatar
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    setting up a 60% 100 durability is perfect for doing the rest careful and getting to 1000 quality...
    follow the 4/9 careful rate it takes 90 durability to get 40 % done,
    If assemble hits and Pride of Labor doesn't, you can still pop Hands of the Gods and standard once and careful 2-3 times to get to the 90 60% careful start setup.
    Try it, it works the best.
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    State Alchemist
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    HQ Weaving:

    1) Use Determination.
    2) Use Careful Synthesis (first popping either Innovation, Immersion, or Epiphany)
    3) Use Careful Synthesis (first popping either Innovation, Immersion, or Epiphany)
    4) Use Careful Synthesis (first popping either Innovation, Immersion, or Epiphany)
    5) Use Masterpiece, followed by 3(or 4) Careful Synthesis.
    6) Use Tender Touch, continue using Careful Synthesis until Tender Touch wears off.
    6) Continue using Careful Synthesis until Durability is equal to or less than 10. (If you have other abilities work them in somehow. I have a couple one-time use abilities at the moment for here but nothing really notable.)
    7) Use Perfection + Rapid Synthesis.
    8) Use Hand of the Gods + a mixture of Careful Synthesis and Standard Synthesis to maximize remaining chances for quality gains while still securing a successful completion.

    That about wraps up my HQing process (for now). It may change as I unlock more abilities.

    Obviously sometimes everything doesn;t come up in the exact order like this, but it is easily tweaked to accomidate with a little common sense. (Oh and btw, even if Perfection fails to activate, which it rarely ever does for me, you can still finish off the synth with just Hand of the Gods 95%+ of the time.)

    Using this process I average over 80% HQ chance on 51-60 level synths when attempting with all HQ materials.

    I actually considered using Clean Slate in conjunction with Hand of the Gods to get 3-4 free Careful Synthesis at the beginning of the synth, since with HotG you will lose 0 durability and Clean Slate will reset Progress to 0. I do not have CS yet so I have been unable to test this to see if I can squeeze out a higher average HQ %.
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    Last edited by StateAlchemist; 04-14-2012 at 04:03 AM.

  3. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by Green_and_a_Half View Post
    setting up a 60% 100 durability is perfect for doing the rest careful and getting to 1000 quality...
    follow the 4/9 careful rate it takes 90 durability to get 40 % done,
    If assemble hits and Pride of Labor doesn't, you can still pop Hands of the Gods and standard once and careful 2-3 times to get to the 90 60% careful start setup.
    Try it, it works the best.
    I'll take getting to 30% progress with 100 durability and doing almost double the amount of carefuls, thank you. Been working wonders for me.

    In my opinion, anything beyond 50% progress for 100 durability is overkill in terms of safety. Depends on what abilities you have of course, but if you have a 30% skill, hands of the gods and tender touch, I don't see any reason to get progress that far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra View Post
    I'll take getting to 30% progress with 100 durability and doing almost double the amount of carefuls, thank you. Been working wonders for me.

    In my opinion, anything beyond 50% progress for 100 durability is overkill in terms of safety. Depends on what abilities you have of course, but if you have a 30% skill, hands of the gods and tender touch, I don't see any reason to get progress that far.
    I see how you can see progress +3% +4% and +5% and durability -7% -8% and -9% = 1/2 or anything beyond 50% progress for 100 durability is overkill in terms of safety. but having some leeway for when you hit +3 -9 a few times is needed IMO that's Why I follow 4/9 and not 4/8 or 1/2. OUTIE 5000
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    Quote Originally Posted by Green_and_a_Half View Post
    I see how you can see progress +3% +4% and +5% and durability -7% -8% and -9% = 1/2 or anything beyond 50% progress for 100 durability is overkill in terms of safety. but having some leeway for when you hit +3 -9 a few times is needed IMO that's Why I follow 4/9 and not 4/8 or 1/2. OUTIE 5000
    Right, but when I have access to skills like Hands of the Gods and Tender Touch, they provide all the leeway I need. I havent blown up a single synth yet doing this, except of course double downs when attempting to HQ with NQ mats, but to each his own I guess. Whatever works for you.
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    I didn't realize crafting had its own lingo now. What the heck do these fractions you guys are spouting off about mean?
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  7. #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raldo View Post
    I didn't realize crafting had its own lingo now. What the heck do these fractions you guys are spouting off about mean?
    Progress/Durability.
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    Clean Slate will be hard to use. Even without it, I am already getting durability down to single digits.
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