Weight slider and more fat NPCs please!

[RagingStallion]

It would be nice to have sliders from head to toe, but it definitely needs to be within reason. Sorry, someone over 500 lb isn't going to be doing flips, running from one end of the world to the other, sprinting through dungeons, or managing the intense training and effort required for all the DoL and DoW jobs at the bare minimum. The argument that a human built like a roe could still adventure is one thing- but at the size of those Sims characters they'd have trouble even walking.

There's a difference between acceptance, acknowledging that there's people who are overweight- and straight up lying about it being healthy or having the physical capabilities to manage the rigorous, intense physical activities of a fantasy hero.

Assumption: Being “overweight” or “obese” puts people at significant health risk.
False! Epidemiological studies rarely acknowledge factors like fitness, activity, nutrient intake, weight cycling, or socioeconomic status when considering connections between weight and disease. Yet all play a role. When studies do control for these factors, increased risk of disease disappears or is significantly reduced. What’s likely going on here is that these other factors increase disease risk at the same time they increase the risk of weight gain.

[Ogmion]

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[FF16Necromancer]

Assumption: “Overweight” and “obese” people die sooner than leaner people.
False! Almost all epidemiologic studies indicate people in the overweight or moderately obese categories live at least as long—or longer—than people in the normal weight category. The most comprehensive review of the research pooled data from 26 studies and found overweight to be associated with greater longevity than normal weight. Analysis of the National Health and Nutrition Examination Surveys I, II, and III, which followed the largest nationally representative cohort of U.S. adults, also determined that the “ideal” weight for longevity was in the “overweight” category.

Assumption: Being “overweight” or “obese” puts people at significant health risk.
False! Epidemiological studies rarely acknowledge factors like fitness, activity, nutrient intake, weight cycling, or socioeconomic status when considering connections between weight and disease. Yet all play a role. When studies do control for these factors, increased risk of disease disappears or is significantly reduced. What’s likely
going on here is that these other factors increase disease risk at the same time they increase the risk of weight gain.

Assumption: Health is declining as a result of an “obesity epidemic.”

False! While it’s true that we’re moderately fatter than we used to be, life expectancy has increased dramatically during the same time period in which our weight rose (from 70.8 years in 1970 to 77.8 years in 2005). That’s right, government statistics predict that the average kid can now expect to live almost eight years longer than his
or her parents! Not only are we living longer than ever before, but we’re healthier than ever and chronic disease is appearing much later in life. Death rates attributed to heart disease have steadily declined throughout the entire spike in obesity. Both the World Health Organization and the Social Security Administration project life expectancy to continue to rise in coming decades. We are simply not seeing the catastrophic consequences predicted to result from the “obesity epidemic.”

Solution: More fat NPCs

Having more fat NPCs like Dulia-Chai promotes fat acceptance and normalization. Government studies show that having fat representation in media and the arts alleviate stress from people of big bodies and promote a healthy self-image and increase self-esteem. This leads to better health outcomes and better mental health outcomes.

Solution: Weight Slider

Studies show that people's happiness and self-esteem increase when character customization options in video games can accurately create characters that look like the player. Once again, this leads to better health and mental health outcomes. For people of big bodies, this comes in the form of a weight slider that allows players to create characters of all sizes.

Is this a troll thread??

[Maximuz]

I like this idea but usually games treat fat characters as jokes...thats not good

[Ativan]

You don't need a video game to tell you to eat that Big Mac.

God now we have fatphobia in the FF14 community too. This is a new low.

[Skiros]

Literal idiot

Be nice now!

[Liam_Harper]

Troll aside, while different body shapes are great and ff14 even introduced some with Dulia Chai (who is a popular character), the reason we don't have a weight or body size slider is most likely due to constraints on armor design and how it's implemented in this game. It's a reason new races are difficult because they have to model every piece of gear to that new race, for both genders. A max weight character and a min weight one might as well be two different races in terms of how much their body shape varies.

There's nothing wrong with the idea really, but I doubt it'd be realistic in terms of dev work.

[Minsue]

Assumption: “Overweight” and “obese” people die sooner than leaner people.
intake, weight cycling, or socioeconomic status when considering connections between weight and disease. Yet all play a role. When studies do control for these factors, increased risk of disease disappears or is significantly reduced. What’s likely
going on here is that these other factors increase disease risk at the same time they increase the risk of weight gain.

Assumption: Health is declining as a result of an “obesity epidemic.”

False! While it’s true that we’re moderately fatter than we used to be, life expectancy has increased dramatically during the same time period in which our weight rose (from 70.8 years in 1970 to 77.8 years in 2005). That’s right, government statistics predict that the average kid can now expect to live almost eight years longer than his
or her parents! Not only are we living longer than ever before, but we’re healthier than ever and chronic disease is appearing much later in life. Death rates attributed to heart disease have steadily declined throughout the entire spike in obesity. Both the World Health Organization and the Social Security Administration project life expectancy to continue to rise in coming decades. We are simply not seeing the catastrophic consequences predicted to result from the “obesity epidemic.”

Solution: More fat NPCs

Having more fat NPCs like Dulia-Chai promotes fat acceptance and normalization. Government studies show that having fat representation in media and the arts alleviate stress from people of big bodies and promote a healthy self-image and increase self-esteem. This leads to better health outcomes and better mental health outcomes.

Solution: Weight Slider

Studies show that people's happiness and self-esteem increase when character customization options in video games can accurately create characters that look like the player. Once again, this leads to better health and mental health outcomes. For people of big bodies, this comes in the form of a weight slider that allows players to create characters of all sizes.

I mean being over weight is unhealthy but I do support having the body type heck give me all the sliders and stuff more the merrier. (for reference i'm a chonky boy myself)

[DerpyWhiskers]

ESO, a graphically very similar game from the same year, has always had a weight slider and posterior dimensions slider. So it totally could have been done, unfortunately it's probably is too late now. Here's a maxed weight and posterior slider character, nothing ridiculous or extreme like those Sims 4 chars, just nicely on the thiccer side.

[SeverianLyonesse]

We do have a weight slider. It's on Roes.

I wouldn't be opposed to having what OP wants for greater character customization.

That said, OP is deluded. Even if the data he were citing were from legitimate sources:

1) No statement on "how much" overweight is healthier than the average, or what body fat percentage. Most likely, it is healthier to be overweight when you are putting on a little extra muscle instead of sitting on your fat ass.

2) The health complications and death rates being lowered, and life expectancy being increased are also due to a booming pharmaceutical industry and developments in healthcare. Just because our collective scientific prowess is counteracting fatassery does not mean fatassery is not a hindrance on these areas. In fact, it is quite well documented that in other countries outside of the US where causes of obesity are more regulated and less culturally ingrained, obesity rates are lower and general health and longevity is higher.

Also, if I may be bold, but it is more important to be physically fit than worry about your particular body shape. Barring the extremities of severely under/overweight, there is a whole range of healthy sizes to be. So when someone like me who accepts many body types is fat shaming you, it is probably criticism you should listen to for your own health.