BRD Charged Actions and update work

[AncientElement]

Since patch 5.3 job changes many people are probably unsatisfied with the weak buffs and changes received. Many may disagree but most will agree that some changes should be prioritized.

Firstly, it has been asked for quite a while now but since no charged actions has been applied to Bloodletter and Empyreal Arrow. This should be treated with top priority. The proc timing often causes clipping and an important aspect is that not everyone playing this game and paying an identical subscription fee benefits from living close to servers. servers should cater for all players and make game-play equally enjoyable for everyone. But even so this is something that has been asked by the community at large for quite a while.

secondly, apex arrow is quite a failure, suggestion is to make it fixed damage for 50song gauge cost similar to dancers esprit, allowing players more flexibility and make it a skill used more often or noticeable.

thirdly, party and support skills from the bard is just plainly underwhelming, why even boast the title of bard when the support is so mediocre. Single unit increases to each song buff would be more noticeable and give more support satisfaction.

the sidewinder increase was very welcome but a extra 50potency would have been more satisfying.

caustic and stormbite should be either rebuffed to 5.0 potencies or a better rework. or make dots tick during downtime again like in 2.xx.

Bard is very proc dependent, but its proc chances is low compared to dnc for example, so that needs to be kept in mind as well.

how does everyone else feel about the changes and what else is lacking with the job currently?

[Brandedblade]

Personally I've always been a fan of ffxiv bard myself. Once they re-implemented the song buffs it was enough to make me interested in the class again. I can absolutely sympathize with the desire for those song effects to be stronger but with how powerful bard was in stormblood I do not blame SE for being scared to add more power there.

More ways to RNG-proof the proc system is def a welcome change. I do wonder about something tho. is the reason that Bloodletter and Rain of Death aren't on a charge system related to the programming tied to them being on the same cooldown?

[Cetek14]

I like how you suggest mostly potency changes, some people suggest full rework, and i call it unnecessary. Some jobs are in dire need of rework, while BRD is completely fine rotation and animation wise. It just works.
BRD should be between MCH and DNC damage wise, i can't comprehend who in dev team was so wise to make it weaker than dedicated support job.

[Jirah]

I like how you suggest mostly potency changes, some people suggest full rework, and i call it unnecessary. Some jobs are in dire need of rework, while BRD is completely fine rotation and animation wise. It just works.
BRD should be between MCH and DNC damage wise, i can't comprehend who in dev team was so wise to make it weaker than dedicated support job.

Argreed BRD doesnt need a rework it already got one in SB and its been a well-rounded job disregarding the obvious support and potency issues the "best of no worlds" if you will. and especially since SE solutions to reworks are "make it easier"as soon with numerous jobs and roles like ASt. yes they made it easier ....but ruined its asethtic and continue to ruin its complexity that AST mains loved. so NO lets not trivialize"rework" BRD im scared to eve know what will become of it

[Reimmi]

2 charges on bloodletter and emp arrow, and making songs/battle voice affect the bard as well would be great to start with. bard doesn't need a rework, it just needs a little here and there.
apex arrow feels incomplete though, like we're missing a level 90 trait or something that makes it better, it's the ONLY gauge ability in the game (to my knowledge) you can't use in the opener

[Vortuna]

I'd love charges on bloodletter and rain of death so much, I'd be greedy to even think of having 3 charges too but 2 is more than good enough.

[HyperiusUltima]

2 charges on bloodletter and emp arrow, and making songs/battle voice affect the bard as well would be great to start with. bard doesn't need a rework, it just needs a little here and there.
apex arrow feels incomplete though, like we're missing a level 90 trait or something that makes it better, it's the ONLY gauge ability in the game (to my knowledge) you can't use in the opener

It's the only ability in the game that literally feels like it's TACKED ON. If anything they need to rework Apex into something better later because the feel of it is pretty bad. We already have a Song Gauge to pay attention to. So as to remind people from Heavensward times: We should not be staring at our BUFFS the whole time, similar to how we should not be staring at our Gauges. On top of that, Apex's scaling could definitely be better considering the tooltip is misleading on potency.

[Wyakin]

Dot potency and charges. Bring back foes. Make bard Great again

[SweetPete]

I don’t think bard needs a rework. I like the changes you talked about wanting to see. For me I’m mostly looking at its support kit. The songs are so bad compared to the dancer dances. I don’t know if having 100% uptime in the songs is why the potency of them are so low. It shouldn’t be. Dancer gives a 5% damage increase to their own as well as another indefinitely. Also can increase Crit and direct hit every 2 minutes. Bards support is just underwhelming and needs to be addressed.

[Liam_Harper]

Bard definitely needs 2 charges on BL and EA. It leaks damage constantly. If you get a BL proc at an awkward moment, you either clip or risk losing the next proc and there's very little you can do about that. I'm unsure why exactly the devs have been so stubborn on that one, clunky design should never be used to balance a class.