No more QTE please.

[Burado_T]

I can't follow this thread on a daily basis but people argue against each other just for the sake of it and it be like "well i can't" and the other is like "BUT WHY NOT HUH?!". There are some people that are legit trying to help but who cares right?"

Considering what you mentioned, you are not fully aware of the situation on the forum. I dare to mention everything. There are many good and mocking ideas, we will take into account the good ones, the ostolnoe flood. Ideas with any limb on the keyboard are real, but not for everyone (for various reasons). But this will already help some. The idea of ​​a special controller is also good, but only for those who use it on an ongoing basis and buying for the sake of one mechanic is an inexpedient waste, and not everyone has the finances or the controller itself in free sale in the country. But these are a few more people who already have it. As for the ideas with rhythm, I tried it and it still does not work for most of those experiencing problems, the result is 3-4 clicks per second, when the GCD has 1.8-2.4 (a big difference with the usual rotation). Therefore, the result at the moment is the idea: to rework the QTE under its old version as on Hades, or to let the player die without killing the party (for example, 6/8 players coped).
I hope that you will not see here snarky, I am just writing with facts.

[Burado_T]

I really like how people get banned because they consider a person a troll, when the person herself really ignores all the facts and the complaint, and even when they blame people with disabilities with fakes under the guise of a disabled person. What is slander, does not receive a ban, because is still present in the discussion, and also does not bring any conclusions and only floods and whines for saving the terrible mechanics. In general, this reminds me of the SE scandal associated with the start of the SB when, 30 days after the release of the addon, the subscription price for Brazil and Russia was sharply increased. The Americans then defended these two regions and were able to win, but many of them left the game, like N.A. and Canadians. SE either does not know how to check GM's here or they just don't want to.

[gumas]

this might be a dumb question but, what happen when you fail QTE in FF14

throughout my play i never seen anyone fail QTE (and i dont want to fail myself on purpose because how dumb easy it is), did you die if you fail? the whole party? or just receive major damage or such?

[Enla]

this might be a dumb question but, what happen when you fail QTE in FF14

throughout my play i never seen anyone fail QTE (and i dont want to fail myself on purpose because how dumb easy it is), did you die if you fail? the whole party? or just receive major damage or such?

You fail the instance in this particular case. In all past QTE's they'd just kill the one person who failed.

[gumas]

^thats... kinda too much i guess yeah lol

[Tamhas]

this might be a dumb question but, what happen when you fail QTE in FF14

throughout my play i never seen anyone fail QTE (and i dont want to fail myself on purpose because how dumb easy it is), did you die if you fail? the whole party? or just receive major damage or such?

You will wipe the party and you will not be able to go further on the plot.

[Fynlar]

I had the idea of having the person who can't pass the QTE just log themselves out from the game before engaging so that they aren't in the instance when the QTE starts, and this might allow them to get past (I don't know if it actually works that way, though... could someone verify?)

However, immediately after the QTE comes the boss's ultimate... and because someone isn't there, that means you'll be missing one LB bar... meaning you'll somehow have to make do with just a tank LB2. You only need to have one person survive this to get checkpointed though, so maybe if you barrier/mitigate up one tank super hard they could conceivably still live through it? Maybe?

Still though, even if this could work, it's obviously not an elegant/practical solution by any means.

In all past QTE's they'd just kill the one person who failed.

This is only true for QTEs where the whole party must participate. There have been some before that wipe the party if failed, such as bladelocking Susano's sword or holding down Rathalos while the elephant add is killed. However in all of these instances only one person, generally/ideally a tank, had to do the QTE, and they've also still been much easier on the amount of hand dexterity required.

This is the first one that has the whole party participate AND kills everyone if any of them fail. Before, it's only been one or the other.

[Burado_T]

I had the idea of having the person who can't pass the QTE just log themselves out from the game before engaging so that they aren't in the instance when the QTE starts, and this might allow them to get past (I don't know if it actually works that way, though... could someone verify?)

However, immediately after the QTE comes the boss's ultimate... and because someone isn't there, that means you'll be missing one LB bar... meaning you'll somehow have to make do with just a tank LB2. You only need to have one person survive this to get checkpointed though, so maybe if you barrier/mitigate up one tank super hard they could conceivably still live through it? Maybe?

Still though, even if this could work, it's obviously not an elegant/practical solution by any means.

This is only true for QTEs where the whole party must participate. There have been some before that wipe the party if failed, such as bladelocking Susano's sword or holding down Rathalos while the elephant add is killed. However in all of these instances only one person, generally/ideally a tank, had to do the QTE, and they've also still been much easier on the amount of hand dexterity required.

This is the first one that has the whole party participate AND kills everyone if any of them fail. Before, it's only been one or the other.

Unfortunately this is highly unlikely, all mechanics requiring LB tank, at LB below 3rd, just kill you..

Not only is this a plus of the old qte, but also that you could have played the role without this mechanic

[Tint]

I was yesterday the first time in Shinryu Ex. The QTE there is extremely short, I finished it by mashing the square button on my controller only with 0.16 seconds left. When I started to roll my thumb around on the D-Pad and mashing the square button less hard at the same time I finished with over 3 seconds left.

So if you have a controller rolling the thumb around on the D-Pad instead of mashing buttons could help?

[SoranRigel]

I was yesterday the first time in Shinryu Ex. The QTE there is extremely short, I finished it by mashing the square button on my controller only with 0.16 seconds left. When I started to roll my thumb around on the D-Pad and mashing the square button less hard at the same time I finished with over 3 seconds left.

So if you have a controller rolling the thumb around on the D-Pad instead of mashing buttons could help?

Please don't tell players to buy controllers just to make a QTE: we bought this game to play the keyboard.