No more QTE please.

[Lhunuial]

Thanks, I can get a little self conscious sometimes that my vitriol might get aimed at the wrong person and I do not want to do that. lol. I'm generally a very polite and reasonable person but I can get kinda grrr at people who come off as elitist. The same issue I have with this QTE is the reason I don't generally raid. I'm just not coordinated enough to do it well.

No worries, I knew you felt the same way as me about this QTE. I also know my limitations. That's why I don't raid either. I used to raid in WoW for a while, but I haven't really raided in years. I've done some of the alliance raids in here and it does take me some time to memorise all the mechanics. But I mostly don't have the energy to raid.

Same here, I've been trying to defend my stance in this entire thread and just people continuing to tell us to "get gud" or "get a controller" or "try harder" is extremely frustrating, which is why I seem emotional in some of my posts.

[Awha]

Legit I love QTE's but this one is meh at best and I personally find it strange this is a mechanic one would fight to keep.

Though I also do not understand why people want the MSQ of a causal mmo to have a difficulty barrier. I do want a third ultimate fight and harder content all around but QTE's and the MSQ are not the best way to go about that imo.

[redheadturk]

LOL, I'm actually sorta the same way. I can't learn from guides, I have to die to a mech a half dozen times to learn it and some [Looking at you here, Mist Dragon, bane of my sb existence >>] I still struggle with.

Another edit because I just now saw this:

Legit I love QTE's but this one is meh at best and I personally find it strange this is a mechanic one would fight to keep.

Though I also do not understand why people want the MSQ of a causal mmo to have a difficulty barrier. I do want a third ultimate fight and harder content all around but QTE's and the MSQ are not the best way to go about that imo.

I don't mind raiders having harder content. I'm all about having more exes, savage, and ultimates. I just want them to keep that really hard content to those and not gate off story content.

[Gula]

I don't mind raiders having harder content. I'm all about having more exes, savage, and ultimates. I just want them to keep that really hard content to those and not gate off story content.

Raids dont need QTEs because it's not about theatrics. It's about execution of the song and dance. Remove kill all, remove this gate you advocate against.

Now if Wolidibus required Codex Heart tier mechanics or Kefka's wonky AOEs, then we'd have a real accessibility issue.

[Lhunuial]

Raids dont need QTEs because it's not about theatrics. It's about execution of the song and dance. Remove kill all, remove this gate you advocate against.

Now if Wolidibus required Codex Heart tier mechanics or Kefka's wonky AOEs, then we'd have a real accessibility issue.

I said I wouldn't do it, yet here I am. So our struggles aren't real to you? Well, thank you very much. This is an accessibility issue. You might not like it, but it definitely is.

[redheadturk]

Raids dont need QTEs because it's not about theatrics. It's about execution of the song and dance. Remove kill all, remove this gate you advocate against.

Now if Wolidibus required Codex Heart tier mechanics or Kefka's wonky AOEs, then we'd have a real accessibility issue.

When a mech causes a player *pain*, yes, it is an issue. and yes, removing the kill all is what we've been saying all along.

What is with me thinking of more things to say after I have already hit post? lol. But just so you know, I have *cleared* Kefka. The wonky aoes didn't bother me because after dying to them a few times I figured out "oh, do the opposite of what he says" This is a legit physical issue

[Tamhas]

A controller isn't going to get you banned.

Ok. But even if you don't get a ban... Next, please read my entire message.

As for the topic, as someone with a motor skill deficiency, I used a controller and passed on the first time with no pain and no exhaustion. I am sure I could have done it like the other QTEs of rolling another body part across the keyboard. I mainly play with a controller since my motor skills for thumb usage isn't as deficient as normal keyboard use. Just typing normally on a keyboard bothers me more than that QTE ever did.

This is good for you and I am glad you managed to solve the problem. But, as we see, this method is not suitable for everyone.

Playing video games is very much a basic thing for life if you do it all the time. And I'm offering suggestions here. It's a single solution for the myriad of problems people are displaying as the end of their entire world.

This entire thread has been dedicated to a single trial. One instance of mash or fail. Tell me how suggesting buying a controller over all the misery that this trial has brought up is disrespectful, will get you banned when *checks notes* the tactical controller exists and not worth some investment because of all the investment put in this thread.

And again, you judge only by your own life. Exactly. "If you do it all the time." And if not? Yes, imagine, not all people are ready to devote all their time to the game. It's not about that the controller is a bad proposition. Maybe not. But not a universal solution. Because you do not know what kind of disability the player has. Therefore, it`s unethical to insist on such a solution, comparing game software (which is not provided by the creators of the game) with salt and, in fact, counting other people's money.

You have a keyboard. You have more buttons by default than someone on controller. It's a fact you don't need to keep the meter at 100% This is an ancient technique but also an option, have a friend or someone do it for you. Not play the fight, but 8 seconds of contact with another human to pass the phase and the following cutscene gives enough time to pass the keyboard over. Provided you live with anyone. There's accessibility, and then there's "let's get rid of a concept for 50/5000 people."

The bus has to keep moving, a new one will come later. That's just the way public service works.

And when you respond indirectly it makes it hard to notice your posts. I'm not reading every single post, therefore I've very likely skipped over you several times.

What if the player lives alone? For example. Do you suggest that I come to my friend in another city every time he goes through this trial? LOL.

[Xtrasweettea]

I am probably going to get railed by the forum community for this, but I don't care at this point. What is said on here isn't life impactful anyway...

This is good for you and I am glad you managed to solve the problem. But, as we see, this method is not suitable for everyone.

That's understandable. I was sharing my experience, since I would rather find a solution myself over complaining and waiting on something else to solve it. Everyone is different and there is no one-sized fits all solution from the player-base side of things. Not everyone has options available, or cannot see those options for whatever reason.

From what I can tell, though, based on your response and most of the vocal complainers, you don't want player-based solutions, you want SE to adjust the QTE for you.

Which, that's fine. The QTE, even when looking for hints on how to handle this specific QTE, doesn't give you anything. The button mashing and key-board smashing can be resolved if there were better clues given during the event. The QTE could be cleaned up a bit.

What is not fine is people who are failing, but do not have a disability, and are concern trolling about disabled people for changes from SE. I am sure there's people within this thread who are concern trolling and legitimately don't care about people with disabilities or deficiencies. They only care about themselves. I can guarantee that if SE removed the wipe condition, this thread will die, complainers will stop, and the people who would legitimately fail due to disability or deficiency would be left holding the bag... again. The same people speaking on the "behalf" of disabled people will be the ones telling those same disabled people to just die and let them get raised, it's a normal trial, it's not savage, etc. Never-mind the feelings and desires of people with actual disabilities who want to pass the QTE post nerf.

By the way: this post took an hour to type because I needed to take breaks for my hands. I cannot write with a pencil without pain. When using scissors or tools, I have to be ambidextrous so I don't exhaust my hands too quickly. I have had, all my life, terrible fine motor skills. This is not including other physical disabilities I have.

[Tamhas]

I am probably going to get railed by the forum community for this, but I don't care at this point. What is said on here isn't life impactful anyway...
That's understandable. I was sharing my experience, since I would rather find a solution myself over complaining and waiting on something else to solve it. Everyone is different and there is no one-sized fits all solution from the player-base side of things. Not everyone has options available, or cannot see those options for whatever reason.
From what I can tell, though, based on your response and most of the vocal complainers, you don't want player-based solutions, you want SE to adjust the QTE for you.

As I said, this solution may be useful for someone. The question is what should do players who can`t take advantage of this solution? Someone has difficulty using the controller for physical reasons. Someone does not want to buy additional devices for 12 seconds of QTE from the principle and has the right to this. But all players, no matter what problems they have, are forced to go through uncomfortable and painful mechanics if they want to go further in the plot. No choice. Let's present the dilemma with QTE in the form of scales: on one cup overcoming through pain or connecting the device, on the other - returning QTE to the previous look (without wipe of the whole party). In the second case, imho, the game will not lose anything. Scene with a union of players can be represented in another way.

[Gula]

What if the player lives alone? For example. Do you suggest that I come to my friend in another city every time he goes through this trial? LOL.

It's almost as though I said " Provided you live with anyone." Read please, don't skim and react as you have just asked of me.