Warriors Thoughts

[Absurdity]

What content might matter to you might not be the content that matters to others.

Then let me rephrase that, it does not matter outside of doing old content solo and the incredibly rare occasion where you are in a current 4man dungeon and the only one left standing while also having a reasonable chance to actually kill the boss.

The fact that you do not need a person makes it a buff. Ever so slighty but a buff none the less. Imagin you are in a 4 man party and all your team mates are out of range to use this skill. It would be useless. Now its a promised cool down. Not sure on the higher level raids. But in any situation that would force the tank away from the group and them eating a tank buster they just gained another CD that gives them self recovery.

If you manage to be out of range of any of your party members in a 4man dungeon you simply messed up. No boss arena in 4man dungeons is so huge and so littered with aoes that you can't manage to have atleast a single party member in range. But okay, let's count it as a buff if you manage to actually achieve that.

[Hierro]

The extra 15 seconds on eye from IR and the fact you can stack eye to a minute is HUGE. Gameplay is as smooth as butter. No more awkward timings of upheaval and eye falling off just as you do another reapplication. Gameplay is more or less the same, you really don't change much, but what is changed is enough that I warrant this buff makes WAR play like even more like a breeze than ever before.

Now is the apex of its gameplay history.

[Sqwall]

The extra 15 seconds on eye from IR and the fact you can stack eye to a minute is HUGE. Gameplay is as smooth as butter. No more awkward timings of upheaval and eye falling off just as you do another reapplication. Gameplay is more or less the same, you really don't change much, but what is changed is enough that I warrant this buff makes WAR play like even more like a breeze than ever before.

Now is the apex of its gameplay history.

I would agree, it is very smooth to play. I don't think everyone understands how much of a big deal 1min of Storms Eye is. It's a very big deal to spam your path for supplemental heals over and over even more so then before 5.3, weaving Upheaval for effect. Fell Cleave to dump beast gauge and back to Path Combo, and seeing 24 seconds still left on the eye timer, and you think. "I can get another 2 paths in with another fell cleave before I have to start eye combo!". As I take huge hit for 40-50k, Pop infuriate and nascent, Inner chaos, Infuriate, Inner Chaos. Save equilibrium for next hit, pop IR for DPS dump while refreshing my eye buff. Having that much breathing room is very generous and I hope SE doesn't think they gave us to much.

You are correct in saying this the apex of the job imo. Put a damn bow on it and put it under the tree. I will continue to enjoy these gifts as long as I can.

[Brandedblade]

Then let me rephrase that, it does not matter outside of doing old content solo and the incredibly rare occasion where you are in a current 4man dungeon and the only one left standing while also having a reasonable chance to actually kill the boss.



If you manage to be out of range of any of your party members in a 4man dungeon you simply messed up. No boss arena in 4man dungeons is so huge and so littered with aoes that you can't manage to have atleast a single party member in range. But okay, let's count it as a buff if you manage to actually achieve that.

the point of the warrior update is the fact its two main sources of clunkyness, Nascant requiring a target to cast on, and storm's eye lasting only 30 seconds. Have been addressed.

Irregardless of how impactful the changes are to the actual output of the job or how it fares in savage raiding, the QoL improvements are very welcome in other parts of the game where the changes do matter. Just because you might have been able to handle these mechanics pre-adjustment did not change the fact enough players found it annoying that SE actually bothered to address.

[Absurdity]

the point of the warrior update is the fact its two main sources of clunkyness, Nascant requiring a target to cast on, and storm's eye lasting only 30 seconds. Have been addressed.

Irregardless of how impactful the changes are to the actual output of the job or how it fares in savage raiding, the QoL improvements are very welcome in other parts of the game where the changes do matter. Just because you might have been able to handle these mechanics pre-adjustment did not change the fact enough players found it annoying that SE actually bothered to address.

I'm certainly not complaining about the changes but they're just that, simple QoL changes. People seem to be overhyping it as if warrior got 500 dps added to it and Nascent suddenly allows you to outheal everything yourself.

[TouchandFeel]

I'm certainly not complaining about the changes but they're just that, simple QoL changes. People seem to be overhyping it as if warrior got 500 dps added to it and Nascent suddenly allows you to outheal everything yourself.

The dps gain from the changes exist, sort of, but are trivial to the point that they can almost be ignored. Overall the changes in this patch to WAR alter things very little and don't change balance whatsoever outside of solo content and one-off situations. That should be obvious to everyone.

As for the complaints, including mine, on Nascent Flash; those are not regarding the changes to it this patch but regarding NF as a whole and have existed and been expressed before this patch as well. The only have resurfaced since NF has now been made easier to use and any aspect of NF meaning to be WAR's support ability and not just another personal defensive has been stripped away.

[VictorTheed]

My fav time for war was around 3.1 with the whole str materia and it's tool kit then.

My 2nd fav time for war was the days of SB.

5.3 war I'm still testing but I am liking it so far, ARR/5.0 to 5.2 war was the worst imo.

[BarretOblivion]

I have been playing ever since 1.0(ugh) and also 2.0 onwards. I don't think I have ever felt like Warrior has ever felt quite right. 2.0 it was OK as a life steal tank, but I think SE may have missed the mark for what they wanted the tank to be ultimately. Warrior has always been a class trying to hang onto an idea of what it should have been.

I ultimately hung up my warrior and finished out 2.0 with PLD. Didn't touch warrior until near the end of 3.0 just to level it, and the same for 4.0. Others would argue warrior was "top dog" for tanking in 4.0, but I didn't see it when I played. Like it was trying to accomplish to much, and everyone was And each subsequent patch update I noticed warrior was no longer ANYTHING like it was prior slipping further and further from it's basic core fundamentals.

Focus become more and more on DPS, and less on a coherent rotation for tanking that you can get behind. It felt like warrior to me had to do some REALLY fancy things to pull incredible DPS, don't get me wrong amazing DPS! I felt that I would do that better playing a DPS rather then being a tank trying to be a DPS. Again...I would hang it up after every expansion released...

5.0 Warrior is striped down to literally the basics it almost started with, and I started to enjoy the class more. Became my 3rd 80 after PLD and ASTRO. But Nascent bugged me so I didn't continue playing it due to the gimmicky nature of Nascent. The rotation was much more coherent and simple, but warrior felt caged though, and the potential was nearly there.

5.3 The cage was opened and now Warrior feels so damn...perfect! THIS is what was missing in 2.0...this kit! There are those that feel warrior is basic and simple, but I say so what. When I'm tired of a breakneck rotation on PLD, and switch to warrior it's like a stroll in the park, relaxing. I have never had more fun with warrior then I have now. Nascent perfect, Storms Eye perfect, DPS is strong, sustainability on point. I have not been on my PLD at all since 5.3 released.

Warrior may be my new main tank and I have waited for 6 years. Incredible feeling. Paladin's felt this 5.0 launch because SE knocked paladin out of the park. Least changed job this expansion. Now Dark Knights need there time in the spot light.

:/
I guess some people like stripped down barebones jobs that are basically just copy and paste now.

[Superstructure]

The changes are nice, but... BBBB! Bring Back Butcher's Block! Make it a mid potency oGCD 20-30 sec cooldown finisher only usable when the target's hp is below 10-20%. Can't let this beautiful animation go to waste.

[Vyrerus]

So the OP skipped WAR when it was in the apex of its life cycle from 2.1 until 4.0... smh.