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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    So you go into it with your level 50 toolkit when you're level 50 and you're used to having that toolkit. It's no different to clearing a dungeon at the same level - and many of the dungeons have similar or worse gimmicks to learn than CT does at this point.

    As for social anxiety from the larger group, you're ultimately still in an eight-man party and don't interact with the other two groups at all. Almost all mechanics come back to "fight X with your group of eight" but there are three Xs on the field.

    Have you actually, personally played CT at this point or are you hanging back dreading the idea of "raiding"?

    Just think of them as large-scale dungeons. It's what they are. If you're not confident, your group will probably pull you through and you don't have to touch it ever again.
    To be honest, no I have not touched the Crystal Tower series and will need to clear it myself, but while I would rather not complete the raid - my personal grievances with needing to do so aren't great enough for me to desire to Express them in detail.

    I mentioned how parties generally function in alliances raids, but the fact that you'd still be exposed to potential text from o23 other players was too much for them.

    The toolkit concern wasn't really clear to even me tbh, but it seems that several of the relative people just wished to rush through the free trial or ARR/ HW and not spend much time polishing their job play until SB onwards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tranquilmelody7 View Post
    To be honest, no I have not touched the Crystal Tower series and will need to clear it myself, but while I would rather not complete the raid - my personal grievances with needing to do so aren't great enough for me to desire to express them in detail.
    Please do it.

    Especially if you're scaring off would-be players by describing it to them when you haven't actually seen how it works.

    They are like dungeons. The quests are like dungeon quests. You will meet characters that you know from the MSQ and find out an additional part of their story and a better appreciation of what happens in Shadowbringers.

    And yes, you will need to complete all three large-scale dungeons over the course of the story to reach its conclusion, just like you have to complete regular dungeons to progress regular MSQ.

    Unless you plan to be held up forever and not play the conclusion to Shadowbringers Part 2 in 5.3, you absolutely need to do them and the story is a missing puzzle piece in the narrative for you right now.

    To be clear, if you don't know anything about the CT story and you need spoilers (in conjunction with Shadowbringers spoilers) to understand why you need to do it...
    ...it's your first meeting with the will-be Exarch. He is the central character of the entire thing. You are supposed to recognise him as an old friend.


    Really. Just play it. It's not as painful as you think it's going to be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    Please do it.

    Especially if you're scaring off would-be players by describing it to them when you haven't actually seen how it works.

    They are like dungeons. The quests are like dungeon quests. You will meet characters that you know from the MSQ and find out an additional part of their story and a better appreciation of what happens in Shadowbringers.

    And yes, you will need to complete all three large-scale dungeons over the course of the story to reach its conclusion, just like you have to complete regular dungeons to progress regular MSQ.

    Unless you plan to be held up forever and not play the conclusion to Shadowbringers Part 2 in 5.3, you absolutely need to do them and the story is a missing puzzle piece in the narrative for you right now.

    To be clear, if you don't know anything about the CT story and you need spoilers (in conjunction with Shadowbringers spoilers) to understand why you need to do it...
    ...it's your first meeting with the will-be Exarch. He is the central character of the entire thing. You are supposed to recognise him as an old friend.


    Really. Just play it. It's not as painful as you think it's going to be.
    I actually don't pay attention to the Story at all and have completed an Alliance duty several times before(I love Nier).

    However, your cordial and in-depth attempt to introduce me to raids and preface how the plotlines of the Crystal Tower series intertwines into the overall plot have made me sincerely feel guilty.

    I appreciate the sentiment and will run the raid in any case.
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    Last edited by Tranquilmelody7; 08-14-2020 at 05:00 PM.