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    Cursix Takamachi
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    Hunts and Trains; please fix the Hunts!

    I don't normally complain but I felt something needed to be said. A hunt train was just called in my world; there was so many players participating in the hunt that the A ranks would not render for me half the time and trying to teleport to the next aetheryte often got aborted with an error for "Congestion". Sadly a good number of folks running the trains were not only from other worlds, but also saying in chat that the Trains are going as fast as they can and will not wait for no one, even those having loading/server issues. "No time to wait on slow ppl" was one thing that was said.

    I know its a back and forth thing if those in other worlds should be able to go to another world and participate in the hunt. There are pros and cons overall, but right now with the new content and obvious counter measures deployed by SE already like instanced Areas like Lakeland, there should be at least a temporary restriction on the hunts if there is nothing technical that can be done to fix these issues. It is not fair to the residence of a world that they cannot participate and get credit on their own hunts and the attitude of some players that won't show courtesy to others just makes it worse.

    There could be other solutions to try and mitigate the massive surges that these trains cause; perhaps decreasing the spawn time of the A ranks at a minimum to reduce the need for the trains in the first place or provide alternative ways of getting hunts. I don't know what else can be done on the technical side of things, but giving the history such as restricting access to the firment, SE should look at least look at a temporary restriction.
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    Well, there are also things that can be done on our side while the madness lasts. In Aether, most ShB A trains are announced for all servers (discord and CWLS) in the USA mornings, while during USA peak times most conductors announce trains only on their server to reduce congestion. Also, most conductors are calling out the zone aetherite first, then wait there a bit for everyone to load in, then call out the mark flag. That is very thoughtful and helps a ton.
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    Last edited by Oichi; 08-15-2020 at 11:00 PM.

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    Katarh Mest
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    Lamia
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    The congestion right now is primarily caused by the Crystarium upgrade items finally being available from hunt marks. It's gonna be like this for a while until everyone has upgraded what gear they can. (Pro tip: Use your Nier raid coins to upgrade left side gear first, and the hunt nuts for right side first, because the left side items cost 1000 nuts more. Once a week nier raid coins save you 3000 nuts.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oichi View Post
    Also, most conductors are calling out the zone aetherite first, then wait there a bit for everyone to load in, then call out the mark flag. That is very thoughtful and helps a ton.
    This is what's causing a lot of the congestion.
    You wait long enough people from the other servers do come over, which is fine, but eventually too many come over.
    And you can end up having so many by the time you change instances or zones you may lock out some people from their own server.

    It's not going to last forever as people stop using hunts or just patch players stop playing after a while. But it's fairly annoying the speed of the trains have been reduced at the compromise of people being able to load in.
    But hey, I'm not conducting anything so I'm not going to press the issue much.
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    From experience the zone lets you in after 30 sec at most or so. Calling the aetheryte first gives everyone that bit of time to get in and barely extends the train more than a few minutes or so.

    Either way, they got impatient and stopped calling aetherytes first on Light DC. I'm not sure why you'd take the time to scout a train, announce it on all your linkshells and share it with the community, then not let half of them in, but train conductor sets the rules so I'm not complaining.
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    Absenthine Starfrost
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    It's been like this since World Visit was implemented. When something new comes out (like gear upgrades with nuts) the trains become overcrowded again and stop for no one. I'm not sure what they CAN do about it but I do kinda miss the old times when the hunting community was more then just hop on the train and hope you hit it.
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    Elan Centauri
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    Cross world hunts were a mistake, in my opinion. Way too many people in an area at once. If we had a more efficient way to filter who we see I suppose it'd be one thing, but we don't. A lot of MMOs have a setting that lets you choose the number of players you can see at any given time like 12, 20, 50, etc. FF XIV would benefit from such a feature, I think.
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    Last edited by Vahlnir; 08-16-2020 at 05:23 AM.
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    Player DrWho2010's Avatar
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    eventually this will die down as people get their upgrade items finished with. the initial rush is hyped but it's to be expected.
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    The mayhem is awesome. It'll die down in a week or two when the main rush is over.
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    Even if nothing is done now; My hope is the developers will put some limitation next major patch to reduce this kind of thing.
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