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    Risvertasashi's Avatar
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    Makani Risvertasashi
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    This is a kind of interesting contrast to the many complaints of AST having too much to do/too much micromanagement, which have been vocalized pretty often on these forums. Seems SE is going to make some people unhappy one way or another...
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    Liam Harper
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    Zodiark
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post
    Seems SE is going to make some people unhappy one way or another...
    True, but perhaps they should be making the people who enjoyed AST happy. The people who liked playing the "busy" healer with its complex openers and rewarding optimization. We have WhM as the simple healer and ScH as an in-between. They could put their focus into developing and polishing 3 unique playstyles instead of destroying them.

    It's a bad idea to try and please the crowd that doesn't actually enjoy a class. The people who want bits of AST, like its mobility or it's incredible healing, but don't want to play the class itself to get that. The only option there is ripping the class away from its fans, gutting it and then handing it over on a plate to the people who didn't even like it that much and probably still won't like it long-term.
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    Jira Dal'riata
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    True, but perhaps they should be making the people who enjoyed AST happy. The people who liked playing the "busy" healer with its complex openers and rewarding optimization. We have WhM as the simple healer and ScH as an in-between. They could put their focus into developing and polishing 3 unique playstyles instead of destroying them.

    It's a bad idea to try and please the crowd that doesn't actually enjoy a class. The people who want bits of AST, like its mobility or it's incredible healing, but don't want to play the class itself to get that. The only option there is ripping the class away from its fans, gutting it and then handing it over on a plate to the people who didn't even like it that much and probably still won't like it long-term.
    This was MCH folly, As a old MCh main i cannot for the life of me enjoy this toothless job anymore and was satisfied with 4.0 burst damage and double bullet procs 4.0 had such massive room for improvment but they dumed it down to please people that never leveled the thing resulting in a wave of "new" mains. Every job has its own strengths some are easier than others trying to please everyone by trivializing the job ruins what made it stand out. As whats going on wit Astro. it makes me scared of any potential rework im glad Astro has such negative reception as well as a few other jobs maybe theyll learn... or not and continue to shave off the job until its reduced to 2 buttons, watch out monks yall next
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    Krystal Abyss
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    Mateus
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post
    This is a kind of interesting contrast to the many complaints of AST having too much to do/too much micromanagement, which have been vocalized pretty often on these forums. Seems SE is going to make some people unhappy one way or another...
    You'll notice that whenever something is a huge change brought about by forum regulars world wide, you get a flood of influx from people who would never use the forums otherwise to speak up. Because forums historically suck and there is 0 incentive to use it here. Not everyone watches Live Letters nor reads the entirety of patch notes save for job changes. And they have opportunities to make their opinions heard before its too late.

    I don't even play AST but I know several people massively unhappy with it, which is why I checked out this thread. None of which use the forums.

    Would be really great to somehow get it across to players their opinions matter and harping in private discords and chats doesn't change anything, talking to the managers does.
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    This is probably the easiest forum to bait.

    y'all are kinda dumb tbh

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    Tani Shirai
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    Cactuar
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    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post
    This is a kind of interesting contrast to the many complaints of AST having too much to do/too much micromanagement, which have been vocalized pretty often on these forums. Seems SE is going to make some people unhappy one way or another...
    "Micromanagement can feel a bit too convoluted given poor controller target-selection, an unintuitive design to Redraw, unnecessary animation times, and latency affecting each of said oGCDs in typical twice-ping fashion" =/= "We just plain don't like micromanagement above a level about... yee high."
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