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    Quote Originally Posted by Duuude007 View Post
    I think they still need to further clarify.

    I mean, unless offhand tool stats stack with mainhand stats, which the UI implies that they do not:

    What purpose do luminary tools have for having both mh & oh stats on them?
    Wow what an interesting idea, I wonder if they redid the crafting system to incorporate 2 stat caps like they have for DOW/DOM. Then trying to test the stat caps o.o, also think how with ifrit weapons the stat caps raise, imagine the luminary tools raise the stat caps! Would make luminary much more desirable imo.
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    Luminary tools are then good for every recipe (unless you want quantity over quality as will still be provided by OH on some recipes).
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    But every recipe today (not counting dated junk) bases HQ on mainhand tool and mass production on offhand tool. thats why I ask.
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    Gear synths can be +1'd with OH tools, and some are better done with them because of the stats. Most notably some jewelry, some masks and some shoes. Those are just the things I know of off-hand.
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    Again, what you speak of are dated recipes that they have stated will be discontinued by patch 1.22
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duuude007 View Post
    Again, what you speak of are dated recipes that they have stated will be discontinued by patch 1.22
    If that's to me, then just "lol... no." I've hq'd several coral armilae, black pearl rings/chokers/stat rings etc etc with my grinding wheel. These are new recipes and not being taken out. That just a small sample of the crap you can still HQ with OH synths.

    If that wasn't toward me, then disregard.
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    Personally I think they need to remove stats from crafting altogether especially seeing as now you can't even allocate stat points in the same way as a battle class.

    Abolish magic craftmanship and just have control and craftmanship.

    I duno why this game has so many stats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinko View Post
    Personally I think they need to remove stats from crafting altogether especially seeing as now you can't even allocate stat points in the same way as a battle class.

    Abolish magic craftmanship and just have control and craftmanship.

    I duno why this game has so many stats.
    That or at least state plainly on the recipe whether it uses Craft or M.Craft. Seriously don't know why that's not stated anywhere at all.
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    Wow anyone who still makes the statement "I can craft bare ass naked and get the same results" is not trying to HQ tough synths. Or is not pushing their HQ possibilities like they should. If you can easily HQ electrum ingots with all HQ ore then try to HQ with 1 nq, how about 2 nq's, keep going till you reach a point where it gets tough to get the needed Quality to hit that 900+Q range where HQ's are 80%+. Now go naked and do the same synth w/o any abilities (since they dont' work). Report back how broken the system is and how easy it is to craft in w/e u feel like.

    Yes some skills are very strong but I have yet to find one that does not fulfill the description.

    Like it or not, crafting is a very major part of this game, and I believe it's important that SE get this right. That means a reasonable amount of RNG, abilities and stats that actually make a noticeable difference, and some reasonable amount of direction from SE regarding all of the above.
    I agree with this part they need to adjust and revamp many parts of crafting to improve the lvl'ing up process but from a pure HQ standpoint what they have going now works very well.
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    Last edited by Tango; 04-10-2012 at 11:24 PM.

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    I hardly ever get element instability and I got sparks once (I think) with 100 control...
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