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    Crushnight's Avatar
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    Jets Down
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    Gilgamesh
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    Dancer Lv 90

    Difference in fight Design

    The new trial deserves praise for a few things but the thing I really want to praise for is

    Ex version does not have the story mode intermission, ty ty ty so much for not doing that, makes farming a lot more enjoyable as it is a lot snapper to get back to action, could you do this from now on please some cutscene intermissions every now and then is cool but when you may have to go to 99 runs or more they get tiring after a while.

    Story modes having them sure as your telling a story for them EX not so much.
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    Ilenya's Avatar
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    Aurora Vlondett
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    Without having run many Ex fights, how many do have the story intermission? I assume Dying Gasp Ex. Menagerie Ex I assume still uses it for platform transition...What else is there?
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    Thats sad the QTE is not in the extreme version. I like that part in the normal one. Look I'll take anything that makes our fights harder so people can stop saying XIV is a baby mode mmo. Tho I know extreme is a different beast anyway. I loved this fight and can't wait to get good enough to try the harder one. I'm scared to try if I'm being honest.
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    Mirn Armaya
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    Shiva
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Canada_bangs View Post
    Look I'll take anything that makes our fights harder so people can stop saying XIV is a baby mode mmo.
    I am fine with more difficulty in normal trials, but having one person fail the QTE and the whole group wipes because of it is a dumb mechanic.

    That kind of stuff can go where the sun doesn't shine.
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    Rujhezia Zima
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    Jenova
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    I hated Ruby EX for that reason. Why wasn't EX just a beef'd up Ruby weapon? That phase change is fine for story mode, but it feels so fillery and boring in EX.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrius View Post
    I am fine with more difficulty in normal trials, but having one person fail the QTE and the whole group wipes because of it is a dumb mechanic.

    That kind of stuff can go where the sun doesn't shine.
    Maybe I'm dumb but I liked that part of the fight. It literally makes sure everyone is doing something to the max effect. I kindof want more things like that. Maybe not in QTE form but it does help people not be carried in content I think.
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    Alijana Tumet
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    Cactuar
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    Ninja Lv 100
    The EX version compensates for the lack of mashing by making the add phase have a huge dance party of like four different mechanics in sequence before you're allowed to focus on burning the adds down.
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    Jirah's Avatar
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    Jira Dal'riata
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    Ultros
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Arrius View Post
    I am fine with more difficulty in normal trials, but having one person fail the QTE and the whole group wipes because of it is a dumb mechanic.

    That kind of stuff can go where the sun doesn't shine.
    Gods, imagine this in Shinryu. My first time doing it 5 people died on that and the other 3 died on the platform afterwards, aswell as myself who died because I never saw a QTE in the game before
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    Player Amnmaat's Avatar
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    Loud Jungle
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    Sargatanas
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    Black Mage Lv 60
    Yeah, I'm glad the extreme doesn't have story-related down-phase. I hope they design them like this more. In savage raids it's a good design philosophy since it's a weekly clear, not so much in extremes. Though I do love some of the phase changes like in levi, sophia, zurvan. Small ones like that are nice, but Ruby's feels longer than it is/should be.
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    Rostythgar Onasch
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    Mateus
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Canada_bangs View Post
    Thats sad the QTE is not in the extreme version. I like that part in the normal one. Look I'll take anything that makes our fights harder so people can stop saying XIV is a baby mode mmo. Tho I know extreme is a different beast anyway. I loved this fight and can't wait to get good enough to try the harder one. I'm scared to try if I'm being honest.
    The QTE would be fine if it weren’t for it being a wipe if even one person fails. I can mash with the best of them, but there are those who can’t.
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