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  1. #31
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    Hey, it could be like before they fixed how to unlock them and made you wait around for fates. Now the quests and the raids themselves are pretty faceroll if you really don't care about the story of them. The "I don't like raiding" response means nothing because old 24 man content can be done without much effort at all.
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  2. #32
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    You're only exempt until you hit the second layer of gating at the start of patch 5.3, specifically intended to catch anyone who missed the first gate.

    The first gate in 2.5 is the ideal place to have played the CT story since that's when it's supposed to happen in the overall plot. It ensures that people have seen the events of CT before characters and/or concepts from that story are reintroduced to the MSQ first at Lv60 then Lv70. For a player who does want to experience the entire story, this will ensure that they don't miss what seems to be an unimportant side story at the time but makes a big difference to your understanding of events later on.

    However, it is not critical at those story points if the player hasn't yet played CT, because despite adding valuable context it doesn't actually need to have happened for continuity's sake. The story will make sense either way so long as certain things are written with script that is ambiguous or changes according to your personal progression. Thus it remained optional initially.

    5.3 is where that ambiguous approach runs out. Certain events there cannot take place without the events of CT having happened first to create a particular situation. Therefore, by the approach the game takes to any content that builds on earlier events, this is where you must do CT to ensure the story's pieces are in the right place before the MSQ builds on them.
    Oof, how unfortunate for me.
    Well thanks for letting me know, I honestly had no idea.

    I'll get around to that eventually... after I start the first quest available after 'ShadowBringers'.
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  3. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jazmyn View Post
    Can you skip it with Tales of Adventure: Stormblood
    Probably not since the Crystal Tower quest is still separate from the MSQ. If I remember correctly, players who used the ARR skip still had to do Ifrit and Garuda Hard to unlock Titan Hard for post-HW MSQ. I imagine this will be the same thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    Probably not since the Crystal Tower quest is still separate from the MSQ. If I remember correctly, players who used the ARR skip still had to do Ifrit and Garuda Hard to unlock Titan Hard for post-HW MSQ. I imagine this will be the same thing.
    I bought an ARR story skip a while back and I think the three hard mode trials were all unlocked but not marked complete, though the unlock quests were, so I might have had to clear them before I could pick up the Extreme versions. There was some kind of oddity like that, anyway.

    The skip unlocked Lv50 dungeons but not raids - which in my case was good since I'd skipped ARR specifically to replay CT before Shadowbringers.

    Maybe they'll change that now, but you'll have to wait and see. Or you can just consider it MSQ and get on with it like any other quest that needs doing.
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    Last edited by Iscah; 08-13-2020 at 09:09 AM.

  5. #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jazmyn View Post
    What about those of us that care nothing for Raiding did enough of it in wow
    You can totally crush the Tower by this point. Everyone vastly outgears all 3 parts even when synced, so it takes no time at all. If it were the mechanic heavy Mhach raids I guess it’d be an issue then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jazmyn View Post
    What about those of us that care nothing for Raiding did enough of it in wow
    I admit I'm not entirely clear on what raiding in WoW entails, but coming to this game with no other MMO experience (I mostly play RPGs and such), the Crystal Tower raids just feel like big dungeons. There are a few instant-death mechanics that will inevitably catch out newcomers, but most of the fights have been trivialised by the increases to ilevel since they were introduced.

    In any case the core importance of getting you to do the raids isn't the raids themselves, it's the storyline that you can't see through to completion without getting through those raids along the way.
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    If it's that offensive to you why not just buy some story skips?
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